We have tested the following headers.

1.OEM 4-1
2. Strup Performance 4-1
3. MMW 4-2-1

Here are the results.




Video clip:
http://www.monstermotorworks.com/ima...headertest.AVI


Stock vs. Strup vs. MMW:



Strup vs. MMW:



Stock vs. MMW:

 

so what's the price and availability?

if they both gained 10.8 lb ft over stock how can the mmw make 5 lb ft over the strup ?

and the mmw is apparently only 3 hp better than the strup not 6. going by first run numbers.

why are they all done at different rpms? ........ are these the optimum for all or just for the optimum for mmw and the minimum for strup or the minimum for stock?


or hmm... time for independant testing.

 

 

$350.00 plus 25.00 shipping?


pass me the crack pipe. i'm gonna need a few hits of this before i go "rush out and buy one"

 

and i just checked out your intake section of the website. 11 lb ft of tq gain? um yeah sure............if every other intake is like 4 -5 then um..........

and 8.1 hp eh? yeah i dont trust when a companies new product almost doubles the two closest competitors......

 

Here you go Darren

 

thanks alot bro. it might .. just might justify the insane costs and fishy test results.

 

^^

-THE DON

 

The Rpms are just pointing out the highest points of gains.
if you pay attention to the graphs they were all done at the same rpm's through out the whole rpm band.

And if your talking Peak to Peak Yes it's 3hp for the strup vs. MMW. But im pointing out the biggest gains.
And if you notice the gains over strup through out the whole power band?

Also torque was higher through out the whole torque band.

Price is $350 and i have one available now.
Were making more right now.

You shuldnt call the dyno's fishy if you dont look carefully.

You only live about an hour away from us, you can always come down and check it out for yourself.

FYI: Honda and most Race Headers cost about $1000-$1200.

You can check it out for yourself.
http://www.dtr-fab.com/product_header_b-series.html

Which will explain the craftmanship and work behind race headers.

 

I beleive the Strup Header Retails for $369
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hopup1/strupheaders.html

Im talking retail prices.
You can be the judge of what you want.

 

I would never buy the strup either... i just figured that in the past 5 years or so weapon r products have always been cheap theyd stay that way. but i guess when youve got a hot new market you can kinda bring whatever price ya can..


well that honda race header argument holds no water. 90% of dc headers are labeled a "race" header and oh wait they cost 200-425......... so

i own a cheap **** "pos" megan racing header but from every xb i've ever raced even a turbo i have won. not saying i'm the fastest but............ i'm guessing my cheap megan header and aem aftermarket "L" pipe intake and my cheap garbage ebay muffler with custom ONLY 2.0 piping is nothing lol...

i know that this header is almost undoubtedly say a peak of 3 or so whp ( guestimate)better than mine but shoot mine cost 130..... i'll take the cheaper product for now. and a cheaply priced product with awesome quality like my megan header is the best kind of product in my mind..


and i know your header can re-use the stock heat shield....that still doesnt make it smog legal. but ... it will fool police. that or just scrub the stainless and make it tarnished with hand oil and stuff some strut bars and stuff and it's pretty well hidden just swap em out for smog.

 

can DC Sports Race Header really be classified as a race Header?

Im showing you dyno results.
Not telling you to buy one.

People pay for quality and Brand that they can trust.
Hence why people buy brand names.

Your looking at Peak Power also.. you should pay more attention to Torque which is what gets your car moving, HP means nothing without any TQ gains.

 

oh i know about torque..... but hp sells..... the people that need to know about torque are the ones running 2.25 and 2.5 inch exhausts on stock-mild bolt on scions....

as you know tuning isnt just 1 dimensional. many parts and components affect many other things

 

Im very aware of tuning , which is why i can show you these dyno graphs to prove it.

 

cool numbers.. what ELSE has been done to the xB?

(that's right, it does make a difference)..

 

FYI, it's xB, not Xb.

 

Intake and magnaflow exhaust

 

nice gains.......

 

so you're basing claims of hp increase on a non stock car.. pretty sneaky if someone didn't bother asking..

fyi my BONE STOCK xA made 92whp/93wtq at 95F degrees and 90% humidity.. .. your numbers look off for a xB with the work done you say was done.. u sure you didn't do the intake and exhaust in conjunction with the headers?

 

What dyno did you use..
Ours is a Dynapack which is a very accurate dyno.

Inertia dyno's are wrong. the roller builds up speed and then keeps rolling and reading HP numbers till you stop the dyno.

Alot of factor can come into play, tire size and temp.
this dyno eliminates that factor.

AEM, Dinan, Apexi uses this dyno.

How would showing the difference of power be tricky when the only variable is the different headers.