anyone make s/c for auto yet? if they do how do the trans. hold up?

 

yea they have made one for a long time, its not the trany you should be worried about holding up. The s/c wont last long, alot of people have been have problems with s/c.

 

"The s/c wont last long, alot of people have been have problems with s/c."
Where did this come from? If you are using tht Greddy, it's the same "MP45" Eaton used on the Mini "S" car. No problems here.

 

the blitz compressor has no problems with an auto

infact, its recommended for an auto

 

"infact, its recommended for an auto"

With a stadard, you're gonna need a clutch..... Trust me......

 

i have talked to to some people with the greddy and they say it sucks. There is a guy here in CO that had the greddy on and it ate it self with in a week.

 

I'v installed 2 Greddys , an 05 & o6. No problems - both are DDs that do 100-150 miles a day.......
My Mini has a MP45, it's an 03 with a few mods, running over 16lbs of boost, same Eaton - different BPV.

 

that was taken from the Parts Review area of ScionLife.

the Greddy supercharger costs $3200

the Greddy turbocharger costs $2400

the Blitz supercharger costs $3500 <---i think this would be better because of the 0% upto 75% selectable throttle control and its

superchargers are safer on auto's while turbos are better for manual transmissions, but you can use either for whatever your car is. The kit will be specially made for your car (either 5spd or auto) just buy the correct one.

 

Sizzlinscion, "i have talked to to some people with the greddy and they say it sucks. There is a guy here in CO that had the greddy on and it ate it self with in a week."

"they say it sucks" - "There is a guy here in CO" If you want to share something, do it first hand. I'v heard way too many "I know a guy", it's BS. If that guy wants to post some real facts, OK. They say it sucks? Who are they? Read some posts here, Scion Life, do you see anything that says they suck?

Olsen Custom, good post. Thanks.
I can tell you 1 of the reasons Greddy & others recomend an auto is the OE XB clutch. No where near the pressure needed. I have Greddy on my car & you realy need to be conservative. For sure an SC is much more drivable with an auto but the 2500 to 5000 range with a manual is real nice. It's not the Mini but it sure pulls in 5th on the highway or a little roll & go action. I believe that most people would like the mid range drivability & the low end torque that the SC is good for. The turbo will make the numbers at the top, for sure but I'm never at that high end for very long. Turbo or SC, it really is where you want the drivability. It's a 6 of 1, half dozzen of the other.
The PE SC may be the best of the bunch but that is a whole different thread.

 

If anybody need a greddy sc belt i have 2 brand new . the small belt.In stop fighting .

 

superchargers will also keep the engine bay cooler, and never lose boost pressure. they're almost perfect power-adders, dispite having lower horsepower and torque numbers.

i love that supercharger "whine" when you get on the throttle

if and whenever i get a supercharger, i'm gonna go with the blitz compressor. Mainly because its been out the longest, i feel like its had the most time to get whatever bugs worked out.

I'll only go with a compressor also, the centrifigal piping is all messy and takes up too much engine bay space.


i gotta say, i agree w/ Steve60 on this. If a supercharger fails at any point, its because it wasnt installed correctly. Superchargers are the simpliest form of forced induction, turbos can have so many variables for failure. And you cannot judge something just because a few people told you it sucked.

I've never heard of anyone saying "damn, i should've never bought that supercharger" unless it followed with "i also should've never installed it without professionals"


keeping on topic, lets just make sure the buyer knows to get the supercharger installed by professionals, despite everyone saying it can be done in your driveway. I've never installed a s/c, but i have installed my own intake, exhaust, ect...

...either way, mine will be done professionally

((sorry for the long read, guys ))

 

so where do you buy the blitz or greedy s/c for auto and do the kits come with everything you need (gages, injecters...)

 

so now theres 2 06 xb's running w/ a greddy s/c! man i wiah i could work with wires, all that mech stuff i could do but im not touchin that harness lol

 

What's funny about this question is that when I started looking, most sites said the S/Cs are for autos only. Go figure.

S/Cs are more problem free because it's pretty much bolt on boost. You can throw a ton of money to make more power, but in the long run a turbo is where true gains are made (just the nature of the system), for less.

I have yet to see any threads to the effect of 'I have a supercharger and I love it' blah blah blah... people come on / find messageboards to gripe, not laud whatever product they bought.

I looked into the greddy supercharger issue (you may find a couple posts started by myself) and there are a small contingent of people who had problems, but there's a larger group who love theirs.

But seriously, if you google 'intake problem' or 'pulley problem', etc, you're going to find a bunch of people who had issues. Does the product suck? Depends, but probably not. As already mentioned 90% of problems are from the installation.

http://www.ptuning.com/ - from what I understand, they're stand up sellers.

 

Trust me go with greedy. you will have belt problems with the blitzs.. I can get you a good deal on a greedy charger,plus a trans coller.If you have a 06 you have to get some one that can help you with the ECU.I have a 04 so it came with the plug in play harnes.It only took me five hours to install.

 

The re-wire for the 06 is not difficult. It can be a time hog if you are not good at soldering, but it's good to take your time. You do want it to be right the first time...... Don't be affraid of the harness. All you are doing is moving some wires & reconnecting some others.

The first, 04 XB, was a Blitz. It has been fine for 2 years now ( after a couple of unknown issues ). The crank pulley pin on all these cars are weak & should be replaced with something stronger, drill bits have been used. In this case I recomend a hardened pin, available at most hardware stores.
With the manual transmission, you will need a clutch. In the next couple of weeks, this car will have a Spec stage 3+, the last clutch this car will EVER need.

To answer 1 of the questions relating to the kits, injectors are not included. Your engine will be quite happy with the OE, however the duty cycle will be pretty stretched. http://www.deatschwerks.com/catalog/...alculators.php this will give you a very good ball park of what you should have depending on where you want to go with your build. I recomend installing OE TC injectors, they're a direct bolt in & will allow much more headroom ( sometimes they can be had for low$$$ ). You will notice the difference at the top, the butt dyno says they are better everywhere.
Someone will need to start a SC - header thread. With any SC the header can give you some good gains.
Thank' for all this good input,
Steve

 

you can get the Greddy directly from greddy.com and it DOES NOT come with any gauges. It comes with a flash computer called eManage.


the blitz can be purchased from Blitz directly, and as far as i know, it doesnt come with anything more than the compressor, belts and wiring.


the tC injectors work very well, but the stock injectors will be fine as long as your running at a safe 7psi or lower.

 

http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...mber=BLT-10156

thats the blitz product. Its kinda expensive at $3,900 but this link will give you an idea of what comes in the kit. Its everything you need for a complete bolt on.


http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...r=GDY-11511501

thats the Greddy supercharger. It is considerably less expensive at $3000 but it doesnt have a selectable throttle option.


either way, both seem like good superchargers and they will not fail if you dont abuse them

 

the blitz says it is oil filled for what ever reason, and had the adjustible throttle switch. what are both of these used for? also the blitz looks like it comes with way mor stuff. i have an 05 scion xb will the wire harnes just plug in or do i have to rewire(with the greedy). i think i like the greedy one (price ) i want something i can just plug and play, without having to mess with wires. there is NO ONE around here i can ask or get technical support from.

 

lol steve 60 u see i have never soldered anything in my life! haha id love to learn though, not only that iv e tired to read that wiring diagram form the Successful s/c install on an 06 thread but it just looks like a bunch of wiries to me, amyb if it was in color or some pics to show whats goign on, that would be diff ( always been a visiual learner)