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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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Should I get the Greddy or Blitz supercharger and why?
Old Jul 10, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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if oyu have an 05 or lower XB get the Greddy
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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Personally, I dont like the supercharger kits. Youre going to put more stress on the engine than a turbo application would. I would go turbo.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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I say turbo. But if you want to go super, I have heard people say hands down to go Greddy.
But the Blitz has a cool Off, Low, Med, & High switch.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Those are good points thank you for your input, ZPI has the best turbo setup right?
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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You don't even want to ask that question...

You need to make the decision on your own. Here is some info for you:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...20974&start=75
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=73788
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128275
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=123234
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128218

Those are in regards to ZPI... Here is one on Greddy:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=125656

There is also an HKS kit as well as a TSI extreme turbo kit.

Have fun.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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EVLTSTR is right. Do your own research on turbocharging, theories, etc. Dont just take someones word for it on here. While you are at it, do some resarch on business management and customer service. It will help you decide which company to do with.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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I have the blitz and paided 2995 but when I bought mine the Greddy wasn't out yet.
Greddy is a good deal 2479 and includes emanage. Pay for the install or do it yourself and your done. Turbo may have the best power but It's not like you bolt on a turbo and forget about it.

You need to check your ride all the time and alot of up keep and hidden cost. Turbo kits start at 3-4 grand and end up at 6-7 grand. The average person is not going to install a turbo let alone tune it or find or chase down problems that pop up.
If you sell your car since most superchargers and turbos are not carb legal you will need to remove and it's much easier to unbolt a superchager and go back to stock then take off a turbo. Plus you will save money on the labor.

If I could start all over again I would get a tc with a trd supercharger installed at the dealership and kept it carb legal and this would mean less time in the shop and less headaches and less money.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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I have the blitz and paided 2995 but when I bought mine the Greddy wasn't out yet.
Greddy is a good deal 2479 and includes emanage. Pay for the install or do it yourself and your done. Turbo may have the best power but It's not like you bolt on a turbo and forget about it.

You need to check your ride all the time and alot of up keep and hidden cost. Turbo kits start at 3-4 grand and end up at 6-7 grand. The average person is not going to install a turbo let alone tune it or find or chase down problems that pop up.
If you sell your car since most superchargers and turbos are not carb legal you will need to remove and it's much easier to unbolt a superchager and go back to stock then take off a turbo. Plus you will save money on the labor.

If I could start all over again I would get a tc with a trd supercharger installed at the dealership and kept it carb legal and this would mean less time in the shop and less headaches and less money.
Im not sure why you think a turbocharger will cost more. In fact, I think its the opposite. Superchargers need maintenance and need to be rebuilt after a while. It puts more strain on the engine (running another accessory) and is not nearly as versatile when upgrading to more power. The Greddy turbo kit cost me less than $2000. I upgraded to the intercooler +$500 and a new clutch $250. Thats $2750, which is still pretty reasonable. The installation was simple and straight forward. No belts to change, no mechanical parts to install, etc, and when I want to up the boost, I dont need to change pullies on a supercharger or anything, I can bolt on a simple $70 manual boost controller.

There were no other "hidden" costs at all. The kit came with oil pan/cover, all lines, bolts, etc. In fact the only thing that I used of mine was some gold heat shield foil....oh and I put new oil in. No hidden costs at all.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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I never heard someone say a supercharger puts more stress on an engine, has anyone done a study on that . Are you kidding me about the cost just check out this site and read their stories and breakdowns and problems..You need bov wastegate their are alot of add ons plus fuel system way more bells and whistles with a turbo. Plus I would never tap a hole in my oil pan, if that turbo lets go you will have metal shaving in your oil pump and a blown motor. If my supercharger blows up hey just go back to the dealer. Their is no maintenance on a supercharger the only thing you could do is change the oil.
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Originally Posted by Eddy2006
I never heard someone say a supercharger puts more stress on an engine, has anyone done a study on that . Are you kidding me about the cost just check out this site and read their stories and breakdowns and problems..You need bov wastegate their are alot of add ons plus fuel system way more bells and whistles with a turbo. Plus I would never tap a hole in my oil pan, if that turbo lets go you will have metal shaving in your oil pump and a blown motor. If my supercharger blows up hey just go back to the dealer. Their is no maintenance on a supercharger the only thing you could do is change the oil.
You know what a supercharger is right? You know how it is driven by the engine right? Its just like running another AC compressor. It takes power from the engine to make boost, whereas the turbo will run off the exhaust gases that are already coming out. Bells and whistles? How many turbocharged cars have you owned? Who said anything about drilling a hole in the oil pan? FYI, the Greddy kit comes with a new oil pan/cover. You only need to upgrade your fuel if you are running more boost. You dont think that the boost coming from a supercharger requires more fuel? And what I meant about the supercharger maintnence is that I have never seen a supercharger not needed to be rebuilt after 60k - 70k miles. I understand you prefer supercharging which is cool and all, but lets be fair ok? There are advantages and disadvantages to booth. What you are saying is pretty stretched out. Please dont take my post the wrong way. Im not trying to start an argument. I have used both on multiple cars.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 01:47 AM
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Default Blitz or Greddy superchargers

Cool, Iam just trying to give my feedback on the blitz to the guy trying to make a choice. If you like running a turbo that's cool but I like superchargers and nitrous. Each poweradder has it's own strengths and weakness. If you live in cali don't you want to stay carb legal, otherwise you will have to take off all your turbo parts to pass smog unless you find someone willing to risk his shop to pass you under the table right? Hey Did you ever buy those fuel injectors 260.00 for four of them.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddy2006
Cool, Iam just trying to give my feedback on the blitz to the guy trying to make a choice. If you like running a turbo that's cool but I like superchargers and nitrous. Each poweradder has it's own strengths and weakness. If you live in cali don't you want to stay carb legal, otherwise you will have to take off all your turbo parts to pass smog unless you find someone willing to risk his shop to pass you under the table right? Hey Did you ever buy those fuel injectors 260.00 for four of them.
Are the Blitz and Greddy superchargers carb legal? On the Greddy turbo kit, the Emanage has a sticker that says "Not Street Legal if Removed" Im assuming it is then?

Anyhow, I found a guy parting out his 2004 Celica GTS on Ebay and I picked up his injectors for $79
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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wait a minute you need your car to be carb legal for emmissions??? sorry if it seems like a dumb question but i need to know
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Yes, because you can pass emmissions at the tailpipe but fail visual inspection.
Thats why a cop or smog inspector can check your car to see if you have carb legal or exempt aftermarket speed part and fail you and write you a fix it ticket or tow you Iam not sure which one or both?. So if you are pulled over by a cop and he thinks you have illegal parts on your scion you will be asked to pop the hood and prove that those parts are legal.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Its really up to the cop that pulls you over. If he wants to bust your *****, he can have your car towed for illegal parts.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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The smog inspector can fail you on the visual for non carb addon parts. Also your car can fail for adding to much power for that car compared to what it came with stock.( only this can happen in cali)
So for piece of mind just buy TRD carb parts. New Jersey is also strict about that stuff to. Unless you have a friend to get you by. Blitz supercharger is not carb legal or is the greddy emanage ultimate. I doubt the greddy supercharger is carb legal.
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Originally Posted by Eddy2006
The smog inspector can fail you on the visual for non carb addon parts. Also your car can fail for adding to much power for that car compared to what it came with stock.( only this can happen in cali)
So for piece of mind just buy TRD carb parts. New Jersey is also strict about that stuff to. Unless you have a friend to get you by. Blitz supercharger is not carb legal or is the greddy emanage ultimate. I doubt the greddy supercharger is carb legal.
The good thing about NJ is that the people there are still idiots. I passed NJ smog ON THE DYNO with my cat removed on my MR2. I put a bottle of that guaranteed to pass smog thing in the car, leaned the car out with the afc and bam i passed. I was standing and waiting for my inspection to finish. I saw them pop the front hood, then they were fiddling around the car. I asked them what they were looking for and they asked how to open the engine lid. I opened it for them and I knew they were looking for the cat. I said, "Its right there under the turbo. The cat is part of the downpipe from the factory". One of the guys was looking under the car with a stick and mirror. One other said "oh yeah I see it". LMAO well I passed. CA is not that easy, they have educated law enforcement as well as smog testers here to look for the right things. The likelihood of failing from too much power is not likely as the dynos they use are not made to test horsepower at all.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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So if you live in cali you better get smog legal parts or take off your non carb parts for the smog test then put them all back on. Instead of doing that Iam getting a tc with a trd supercharger. As far as I know none of the turbos nor supercharger are carb legal for the x/b in the state of CA.

To keep the cops away don't put stickers, lower your box or have a gaint coffee can muffler with the funny looking aero body kit with a puke green paint job saying hey fuzz look at me. Best bet is spend all your money on the inside of your box( bling bling) and engine mods. Keep your box stock on the outside so not to draw attention from the police. Also keep your muffler and radio system quiet not out of control. Also don't race some idot on the street who revs his motor at you.
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I completely disagree with your theory of how to build an xB in CA. Rather than sink money in illegal parts just to have a stock looking box is ridiculous to me. Mostly because even with illegal parts (and potentially thousands in fines) you are still only going to run 14s at best! Whereas you could have one sick, head turning xB for the same price and still be legal.

Or you could do like I am when I get my xB. Understand the possible consequences of my actions, and build a completely illegal car anyway.



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