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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Well these are just some fast shots of the M62 eaton supercharger from 3800 Series 1 motors from GM that I will be using in my Cheap(er) Supercharging project.

I took some timed pictures from in the engine bay with the hood closed and there is at LEAST an inch of clearance, so that isn't an issue.

This is by no means the final mounting location but it's close. It's just resting on things right now and will be elevated slightly. Also, you will see some harness wires in the way and touching, these can and will be moved, so again, this is VERY beta stuff. BUT, I just wanted yall to see what it looked like and will be close to looking like when done. One picture has some red markings showing the rough flow of air... into the inlet on the supercharger then out the outlet, through some pipe into the stock intake. The roll of tape is there for reference and is 2 1/2 inches in diameter giving a view that a 2" diameter pipe will more than fit with room to spare.

This is a promising day and gives renewed vigor to proceed. On a side note, progress with an electrical genious I know is coming along to build a MAF/MAP air fuel calibration device to allow larger injectors. It will only modify the fueling and nothing else by scaling the MAF frequency. The planned cost of this device is $100-200 dollars. It will allow anyone to install larger injectors and tune the car to use them.

Anyway, on with the pix.



Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:24 AM
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looks good
keep going and dont heard the bad comments
just keep going
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:42 AM
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Can't turn back now!!!

More progress from tonight. The template for the mounting plate is getting there. I basically got it cut out and angled/level. More pics for everyone!

Looks like it belongs there!!!!





The chunks of aluminum are just there for temporary support, they are not final design nor do I intend to use these studs. I simply needed something to support the blower.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:09 AM
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WOW looks like that blower has the same displacement as the engine crazy big, hopefuly it'll have an over sized pully on it to help control the boost psi
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:14 AM
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I have yet to look into what ratio pulley sizes I need for the desired boost. That is probably the easiest part of this whole thing But yes, I will have a proper sized pulley.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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woah
looks like the xB gonna tip forward!
that is huge!
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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lookin sweet!
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:37 AM
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I must say it does look rather large, i bet it would not fit an xa,( sorry hornet on flower)
It looks like itll need to slide over a bit to line the pulley up with the crank or alt pulley, but once your rid of that stock airbox there should be plenty of room for it to move over and accomadate any piping.
good luck, LET THE BUILD BEGIN!
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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Just an FYI it is lined up perfectly with the alternator pulley. It may not look like it but it's spot on, so yes, it's big

It really isn't much bigger than a blitz blower honestly... the blitz doesn't have the same inlet style that this blower does.. because of that, the case on this blower is about 8 inches longer.. however, i am confident it will be fine Thanks for the props.

And yeah.. I don't think this will work on the xA.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:51 AM
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haha, the angle in the first pic makes it look like the pulley would end up on top of the washer fluid lid. If you say its spot on I believe you.
when vied from above the blitz is more of a tallish stacked design, whereas this eaton is more linear. both appear to be large chunks of metal.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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LOL yeah it does look like that doesn't it??? There really is only room for a pulley, then it WOULD be ontop of the washer fluid lid.

The second thing I have to deal with is the oil dipstick. I think I can cut a bit out of the plate (once it's thicker and stronger) and maybe have to tie a string around it to be able to pull it out. It still comes out at an angle because of the flexy plastic but not very convenient.

If it were just me I wouldn't care as I can still get to it.. but I'm trying to design everything with others in mind, as if this works, others may want it and I want it to be as user friendly as possible.

Yup, both big chunks of metal, but OHHH are they COOL! ;)
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:17 AM
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Good to see forward progress!
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:38 AM
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that IS sweet boogieQ - i wish i had the resources you've got

when you're just about done, make sure you document the parts list *hint hint* and have a template ready for another mounting plate *hint hint*

ill buy your diy kit
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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Thanks for the compliments crayonBOX, That's the plan I will freely post all the information for someone to have this made themselves, or, if they desire, I will make one for them.

I bought a bunch of sheet metal, some 1/16th inch thick steel plate *for the main plate template* and some aluminum plate for brackets. Eventually, I should have every part sitting here before I ever spend money on the final setup.

The hardest part about installing it if someone buys it is probably going to be putting the belt on

I'll be out of town until next week so progress won't be made past this point for a bit yet.

Yeehaw
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Hey man SWEET JOB!!!! That seems very interesting , but impossible to do on an xA. I hope everything works out fine and good imagination!! Good luck and keep us posted!
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Thanks

More to come next week for sure! Going out of town for the super bowl.

Have a good weekend everyone, more pics next week.
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So this sits on top of the stock intake? Hmmm, i would think the efficiency would decrease using the stock intake.

Is this the system:

Filter SC MAF TB

or

Filter MAF SC TB

I think youre going to have problems if its: FIlter SC MAF TB

Becareful with the injectors also, too large wont help if you exced the fuel pressure capabilities.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Good luck with the R & D, looking forward to the results.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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I havent decided which way i will go with the throttle body yet.

The eficiency will be just fine with the stock intake. It will produce more torque than overall total horsepower which is what I want.. who spends all day driving at 6,000rpm? I'd prefer my peak torque be at 2000RPM.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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peak torque at 2K rpm is fine on V-8 but not on a 4 cylinder that should be around 3K or 3500 rpm

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