before you call me an idiot, take a look at yourself, you gave three examples of why he should be worried about running boost and nitrous. what the heck is your problem anyways, i asked how far out of the efficiency range you were running your turbo, i thought you were running a turbo set up because of the 12 psi, i didnt know you did a pulley swap on the blower. geeze, you make yourself come off as a real ****, as far as what you said about the boost being fine, he had problems when he added nitrous, thats what started this whole argument, i told him to be wary of running boost and nitrous on a stock 1NZ, you called BS and said he would be fine, then your contradict yourself and say that it does cause a problem. telling anyone they will be fine running 12psi on a stock motor is just mean. you might have luck running 12psi of incredibly hot air on your blower, but what do you think is going to happen when he tries to run 12psi of intercooled air off of a turbo, it might hold up for a couple runs, but anyone who is running that kind of a setup on their car isnt babying it when they drive it. Im not going to argue with you that yes, you might get lucky and your 12psi is so inefficient that it isnt producing enough power to cause inter problems, but dont tell him that he will be okay running a properly set up 12psi... anyways, on a side note, im running the GReddy SC, which one are you running? if it is the GReddy what pulley did you swap? the alternator or the blower? what size did you make the pulley? i am curious for possible future mods, thanks.

 

i never callled you an idiot...i said you only showed one idiot. he was the idiot.

and again you assume things...i do have a supercharger, but have never touched the pulley.

my examples are just this...you never know. you might have a bullet proof motor, or you got one of them friday afternoon motors. but don't just make a general statement of 'it can't take it'...there are too many of us boosted folks that never had a problem.

my motor sees 12psi everyday...i run it hard stoplight to stoplight, and on every on ramp i can find.

i do not have the greddy, but i would change the alt one if i did it.

i am not trying to sound like a D$%K, i just know it can be done and done safely.
(as you should know with your boosted experience)

this is what my setup looks(ed) like...


had a little more cosmetic work done in there

 

woot that the sc im gettin when i have the money lol

 

they dont make it anymore

 

you think you know what you are talking about, but you have to know all the facts.
Don't back yourself up with "hear-say" information, because it can make you look bad if you don't know all the info.
I am good friends and work with the "idiot" you are talking about. I ran over a year with that same set-up, Blitz charger and 35hp shot, no problems, never blew a motor with that set-up. Read 10psi, with nitrous. The box you are talking about hardly ever races, it is a show car, 2nd in the country for NCCA points actually. He uses a boat-load of engine dressing on his hoses around his motor, gets on the belt, his belt has always slipped, never seen full boost.
The night before that race I put a new belt on (sticky belt) and cleaned the silicone off the pullies. That car was faster than ever before, it held boost and read 12.5 afr all across, but the timing was probably advanced because the computer was used to the boost drop-off it's whole life. The next day (at the track) nitrous was intoduced and boom. It amazed me because that was only his 1st pass with that revised set-up, and i raced for over a year with no problems. Point being if the computer had time to self-calibrate that wouldnt have been the result. Driving the car a full week before (with new belt) would have re-set the parameters on the ecu and it would not have detonated.
So in a nut-shell, it was a tuning failure, not the blocks failure. Even if that motor was built, it still would have blown up. My closest competitor (Bfurches) has run 12psi, he has a stock block. i have run 10psi with nitrous on my sc set-up, never a problem.
I have blown my motor with just nitrous, and too much boost(15psi), but both were because of detonation, not failure of the rods or any other component. Even if i had a built motor it would have blown.

 

Nitrous is fine in conjunction with boost, as long as it is tuned properly, and that is no assumtion, it is fact.

 

sorry to offend anyone, i always side with caution. if you are looking for boosted performance out of a motor, NO2 or not, it is just smart/safe to build the motor, even if that motor is a SR20 or a L67, both strong motors built for boost. i just hate reading responses where people tell someone they will be fine and shouldnt worry, anytime you add boost you should worry, and pay close attention... anyways, that info you put out about the breaking points you experienced, good to know, i plan on doing a build when i get home in a couple months, i was looking to drop the CR to 8.5 and twin charge to hit the 1BAR mark, prolly the GTS tranny... with your experience testing the limits of this motor stock, how much more boost do you think i can add with the new rods and pistons?... i know there are better ways to spend less money and make a faster car, but i decided i wanted to do something unique...

 

what, is it really outa production? how lame, guess ill go wit the greddy turbo then, owel

 

http://www.strippermotorsports.com/scxbgrbotuki.html

 

NO!!!!!!!! there goes my sleeper project.........Greddy here i come....sry Todd......its a money thing.......meaning its what money i can free up faster

 

they don't make it anymore, but there are several still in stock.

you will have to order it from japan.

 

Sorry to thread jack a bit, but are you using an upgraded fuel delivery system Blown_xA? I'd like to upgrade but am unsure of injector size needed or if a new fuel pump would be required. Right now I'm leaning towards the Celica GT injectors, 310cc I believe. I'm running the Greddy S/C.

 

Whoot Whoot i guess ill keep saving then.........

 

better hurry...

 

ill try to.....prolly also end up selling my wheels too....

 

ill just go wit the greddy turbo then. wont have to worry about smog either, so hello all the little goodies

 

I am sorry, I don't think I ever saw it addressed what SC you are running just that its not made anymore. Which one is it?

 

If you like instant throttle response, stick with a supercharger. If you don't mind lag and more power up top, go with a turbo.

You really cant go wrong with either one. IF you have a fully programmable ECU, with a turbo you could get better MPG.

 

well, after watching a neat special on speed channel with gale banks, i am pretty set on turbos. they are great.

also, as for running 12 psi and not making 200 hp, well, to quote gail banks, for every psi of boost you add to an engine, you get about 7% more power, so 12 times 7 equals 84, xa's and xb's make like what, 108 hp at the crank, so 108 times 1.84 equals 198 hp. so it sounds like you would need another pound to break 200 wouldn't you?

 

its the power enterprises sc......i want it cuzz supposedly it is supper quite and it would b a great sleeper project IMHO well for my box anyways