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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 05:33 AM
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someone probably asked this already, but is the stock stereo pre-wired for an amp??
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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someone probably asked this already, but is the stock stereo pre-wired for an amp??
nope, only the bazooka
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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awww fawk...is it JUST a sub only or specifically a bazooka tube?
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by supaguy
awww fawk...is it JUST a sub only or specifically a bazooka tube?
i think its for a specific model


its very low power, i believe its for the EL models
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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the wiring for the bazooka is too small for any decent amp anyway. just run new wires. it's not that hard.
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:40 AM
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eric, didnt see you at the meet
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:56 AM
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yea i know...but im too lazy at the moment to run my own wires...and i dunno if the stock deck can handle my sub...and i don't really want to change the deck...
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holy old thread
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why bring this back????
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Whoa hold up... are there signal wires in the back that provide a low-pass signal?
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no ned an LOC
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Line-out convertor... so it's speaker-level low-pass? Some amps can accomodate that
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I was just thinking about this, I want to run an amp and 2 10's in the back, does the deck itself have line out ofr subs or any other rca outputs?? or as stated above, do i need LOC
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Line-out convertor... so it's speaker-level low-pass? Some amps can accomodate that
If your amp can take a high power input yes you do not need an LOC however it will always sound better using one
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I was just thinking about this, I want to run an amp and 2 10's in the back, does the deck itself have line out ofr subs or any other rca outputs?? or as stated above, do i need LOC
see above
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yeah i was reading another thread and found my answer..thanks for the reply
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Just FYI, the Bazooka harness is SEVERELY inadequate for any reasonable amplifier. Stay away from it and run a decent-sized wire with a high thread count for your power and ground. Your amp will thank you.
As for signal, you can use high inputs if your amp supports them, or you could use LOCs. Either way, you're going to be susceptible to signal noise, either at the speaker inputs or at the LOC itself. Keeping the speaker wire run to the LOC as short as possible and using a shielded RCA cable will minimize the signal noise possibility as much as possible.
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Originally Posted by UV7
...using a shielded RCA cable will minimize the signal noise possibility as much as possible.
I disagree. Using a shielded RCA cable will ensure that if any noise is introduced at any point in the cable, the shield will spread that noise the entire length of the cable. Use a non-shielded twisted-pair design RCA cable to reject potential noise, rather than attempting to block noise with shielding.
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Originally Posted by nodsetse
Originally Posted by UV7
...using a shielded RCA cable will minimize the signal noise possibility as much as possible.
I disagree. Using a shielded RCA cable will ensure that if any noise is introduced at any point in the cable, the shield will spread that noise the entire length of the cable. Use a non-shielded twisted-pair design RCA cable to reject potential noise, rather than attempting to block noise with shielding.
that is entirely incorrect. shielded wires are designed specifically to block signal noise that is seen through lengths of cable. do know though that different companies supply only certain amounts of shielding. Monster Cable supplies between 82-87% shielding where as there are other brands, greater in expense of course, that have higher shielding. Mogami cables are designed with 98-100% shielding and are used for Studio applications where the highest noise protection is needed. i've used mogami's side by side to raw high power cables running nearly 4,000watt continuously and never had any problems with static noise transfer or intruding noise signals. Shielded wires are made specifically to provide protection from noise, use a good quality shielded cable and you wont have any problems.

mogami cables are expensive, before anyone asks. you can get them at any local Guitar center, if they don't have the specific type of connectors you want, you can do a special order for about 5 bucks extra for some custom cables in the specific lengths that you need. you wont need to do that with RCA, mogami has those available. you can expect a single 10 foot cable to cost about $20 *when i mean single i mean one cable or "the left" input cable while "the right" input cable would be a second cable*, this is for their normal hi-def line. silver, gold and pure series are of higher quality, generally with the same shielding but with higher conductivity and thus more expensive.
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Originally Posted by Winter
that is entirely incorrect.
No, it's absolutely right.

Why don't you explain, if you can, what's wrong with what I stated? All you did was talk about shielded cables, but you never really provided an argument against what I said.

Do you understand that the shield is a conductor, and that it covers the entire length of the cable? If so, you should be able to see the logic in what I stated. Your RCA cables pass the signal from one end of the cable to the other, right? So I'll say it again, if the shield picks up noise anywhere, it can pass that noise the entire length of the cable. Additionally, you shouldn't get any noise in a Scion if you use a twisted-pair design and the install is done correctly, there's no need for a shielded cable.



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