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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 04:14 AM
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I just ordered a this scantool!

http://www.scanguage.com

Does all this and more:

SCAN TOOL

Connects to the
vehicles computer to
perform the following:

Reads and Displays
Trouble Code(s)
Clears Trouble Codes
Turns off Check Engine Light
Reads Frozen Data
captured when trouble
codes were set
Allows User Generated
Codes and reports
Responses

GAUGES*

Simultaneously displays
4 real-time digital readouts
of the following:

Fuel Economy
(Miles-per-Gallon)
Fuel consumption
(Gallons-per-Hour)
RPM
Speed
Volts
Manifold Pressure
(Boost Pressure)
Coolant Temperature
Intake Air Temperature
Ignition Timing
Throttle Position
Engine Load
Open or Closed Loop

TRIP DATA*

Automatically records data
for 3 trip types -

SHORT TRIP
TODAYS TRIPS
YESTERDAYS TRIPS

Fuel Economy
Fuel Used
Elapsed Time
Distance Driven
Average Speed
Maximum Speed
Maximum RPM
Maximum Coolant
Temperature


And the owner is willing to do a group Buy!

This is a response to the questions about xA/xB fittment (sorry I didn't ask about tC, but it should work) and the discount!

"SNIP"
Subject: Re: Application

It should work. Some vehicles use the International CAN protocol. This is not common in the US and is not supported. That would be the only reason it wouldn't work.

One way to find out is to try it. The ScanGauge comes with a 30 day unconditional money back guarantee. It even includes shipping both ways. This way it won't cost you anything if it doesn't work.

As far as a discount, I will provide a $20 rebate to your enthusiast club. It works like this. I create an e-mail address like
ScionRebate@linear-logic.com . The members order the ScanGauge using the Buy Now button on the website for $99.95 (which includes UPS Ground shipping in the US and Canada). After getting the ScanGauge and deciding they want to keep it, they send an e-mail to the special address with the name and address to send the rebate check to. The name and address are checked to verify they match someone who bought it and a $20 check is mailed back. This reduces the cost to $79.95 total for someone in the US. Canada adds a tax so it would end up costing someone in Canada the tax plus $79.95.

Ron
SNIP

I let him know about the site and sponsorship, to add to the sponsored sales.

Hopefully get it soon and I'll let all know about the install, it should be plug and play! The hardest thing is deciding where to mount it!
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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Looks Awesome and very good price for the functionality it provides. How is it powered, Through the OBDII port?

I wish it was a little prettier though. The pics in "user friendly features" seem to show a blue LCD. When it arrives, can you tell us what color it is? Thanks.
Old Jul 19, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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What they didn't mention is that once you plug into the OBDII port, it disables your ABS. At least that is what happened to my friends Corolla evrytime we used a similar product.
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What they didn't mention is that once you plug into the OBDII port, it disables your ABS. At least that is what happened to my friends Corolla evrytime we used a similar product.


I shot him an e-mail and will post the reply when he gets back to me!
Old Jul 19, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Just got a response from ScanGuage about the disabled ABS question.

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"I have never heard of this. The OBDII is an engine and drivetrain diagnostic port. There is no reason that I can think of that would require disabling the ABS.

Many manufacturers allow access to things like ABS through this port and I could see that for a diagnostic test they may allow a tool to turn off the ABS, but I would think this would be through a custom command from the tool.

I'll make some inquiries at Toyota to see if they can shed any light on this."
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I'll keep everyone posted on the results.
Old Jul 19, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by W0X0F
Just got a response from ScanGuage about the disabled ABS question.

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"I have never heard of this. The OBDII is an engine and drivetrain diagnostic port. There is no reason that I can think of that would require disabling the ABS.

Many manufacturers allow access to things like ABS through this port and I could see that for a diagnostic test they may allow a tool to turn off the ABS, but I would think this would be through a custom command from the tool.

I'll make some inquiries at Toyota to see if they can shed any light on this."
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I'll keep everyone posted on the results.
Sweet keep us posted
Old Jul 19, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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here's another option for you :
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...736&highlight=

BTW haven't encountered problems w/ it, paid $70 shipping included....

PEACE
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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Make sure you give us a review when it arrives. It looks sweet. Thanks,

Originally Posted by W0X0F
I just ordered a this scantool!

http://www.scanguage.com

Does all this and more:

SCAN TOOL

Connects to the
vehicles computer to
perform the following:

Reads and Displays
Trouble Code(s)
Clears Trouble Codes
Turns off Check Engine Light
Reads Frozen Data
captured when trouble
codes were set
Allows User Generated
Codes and reports
Responses

GAUGES*

Simultaneously displays
4 real-time digital readouts
of the following:

Fuel Economy
(Miles-per-Gallon)
Fuel consumption
(Gallons-per-Hour)
RPM
Speed
Volts
Manifold Pressure
(Boost Pressure)
Coolant Temperature
Intake Air Temperature
Ignition Timing
Throttle Position
Engine Load
Open or Closed Loop

TRIP DATA*

Automatically records data
for 3 trip types -

SHORT TRIP
TODAYS TRIPS
YESTERDAYS TRIPS

Fuel Economy
Fuel Used
Elapsed Time
Distance Driven
Average Speed
Maximum Speed
Maximum RPM
Maximum Coolant
Temperature


And the owner is willing to do a group Buy!

This is a response to the questions about xA/xB fittment (sorry I didn't ask about tC, but it should work) and the discount!

"SNIP"
Subject: Re: Application

It should work. Some vehicles use the International CAN protocol. This is not common in the US and is not supported. That would be the only reason it wouldn't work.

One way to find out is to try it. The ScanGauge comes with a 30 day unconditional money back guarantee. It even includes shipping both ways. This way it won't cost you anything if it doesn't work.

As far as a discount, I will provide a $20 rebate to your enthusiast club. It works like this. I create an e-mail address like
ScionRebate@linear-logic.com . The members order the ScanGauge using the Buy Now button on the website for $99.95 (which includes UPS Ground shipping in the US and Canada). After getting the ScanGauge and deciding they want to keep it, they send an e-mail to the special address with the name and address to send the rebate check to. The name and address are checked to verify they match someone who bought it and a $20 check is mailed back. This reduces the cost to $79.95 total for someone in the US. Canada adds a tax so it would end up costing someone in Canada the tax plus $79.95.

Ron
SNIP

I let him know about the site and sponsorship, to add to the sponsored sales.

Hopefully get it soon and I'll let all know about the install, it should be plug and play! The hardest thing is deciding where to mount it!
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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So this kind of looks like a homemade job in a radio shack case. That means that the internals can't be too complicated.

For mounting...

What if the LED display were seperated from the box and mounted elsewhere? You could mount the buttons somewhere out of the way (since you probably won't need them that much with 4 values constantly displayed) and could mount the LCD screen up on the dash.

Just a thought. If you are feeling technologically confident, crack that bad boy open when you get it and shoot a pic of the internals. I wonder if the supplier would do a custom job if asked?
Old Jul 23, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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i want to know how well it works too. $100 for a display like that isn't bad, but i want to know if it's functional, safe and trustworth before i go ahead to buy it.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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I emailed the manufacturer for the manual and they sent me one in pdf. PM me if you'd like a copy emailed to you. This thing looks sweet, it will be my second purchase after I get my new car (wouldn't do me much good right now, I have a 91 camry = no OBDII).

Has anyone gotten one yet that would like to give a review?
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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Sorry not to post sooner folks, but life happens.

I received the gauge and plugged it in and man does this thing give you lots of data, vechicle speed, air inlet temp, timing and tons of other info. No pics yet but I'm working on that as well as mounting the gauge, my main concern with mounting is being able to remove it easily to use on other vechicles. I will keep you all posted.
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Originally Posted by W0X0F
Sorry not to post sooner folks, but life happens.

I received the gauge and plugged it in and man does this thing give you lots of data, vechicle speed, air inlet temp, timing and tons of other info. No pics yet but I'm working on that as well as mounting the gauge, my main concern with mounting is being able to remove it easily to use on other vechicles. I will keep you all posted.
Thanks, I wish I could offer you mounting suggestions. If you went with a 1 DIN after market deck, you could put it in the pocket below the radio. I think you'd want to keep it close to your other instrument panels, maybe next to or on top of the steering column?

Otherwise, just stick it on top of your dash above the radio. I don't know what they are called, but they have these rubber pads that grip your dash without leaving any residue; they work with friction only. Kind of feel like a gel substance if that helps. Would keep the unit from sliding and would allow easy removal with absolutely no modifications. I have one at home, I'll see if there is a manufacturer stamped on it after work.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Found out something interesting while using the gauge, one of the data readouts is the vechicles speed and when compared to the analog OEM speedometer the gauge is 4-5mph slow! I know that the speedo is not certified a 100% accurate (like police speedo's) this may explain some of the error others are getting when checking the mileage against a GPS. I queried the owner of the company (ScanGauge) and he stated:

"The analog speedometer is not as accurate as the digital. It uses the same information as the ScanGauge and converts the computer information into a value to drive the analog coils and move the pointer to the correct position.

The manufacturers know this will have some error and usually have the error shifted to indicate you are going faster than you really are. This is to avoid irate customers who are getting speeding tickets when their speedometer says they are not over the speed limit.

We have only found one car where the speedometer actually read low. A 2001 Honda Civic showed 50 when the digital value was 51.

My 01 F150 shows 73 when I'm doing 70.

Of course different tires sizes or even tire wear will limit even the digital accuracy. A good check is to use the highway mile markers and try to drive a constant 60MPH and time how long it takes to go a mile. It should take 60 seconds. For every second under 60 you would be about 1 MPH faster. For every second over 60 you would be about 1 MPH slower."

So with that in mind, it's off to find some mile markers to test this out. Or find a friendly PO to test using his radar gun!

Squirrel, you wouldn't happen to have a spare radar gun you could lend me, would ya?

I'll keep you posted!
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These Scions are OBDII?!? I don't know toyotas but in the Ford world - EFI 5.0s were ODBIV compliant and the 4.6Ls (The newer engines) were OBDV. OBDV had a lot more functions that IV -- IV could only do diagnotics on its self but V you could hook a scan tool up to and see all the sensor data. All the customizable chips were only for OBDV as well.
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did you ever find a mounting spot for this?

I looked at that little non-skid pad thing I had, no manufactuer markings or anything. Sorry, but you may already have a better solution.
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you were misinformed

The version of OBD (On-Board Diagnostics) is a federal standard for emmisions diagnostics. OBD 1 was very basic. OBD covers many more sensors, and requires that there be many more sensors in the system. all cars from the mid-80's to 1995 were OBD 1

from 96 on, all cars are OBD 2, although some manufacturers may have been OBD2 before 1996.

there is no OBD 3, 4, 5...
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Do they make one with red LEDS?
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Originally Posted by W0X0F
No pics yet but I'm working on that as well as mounting the gauge, my main concern with mounting is being able to remove it easily to use on other vechicles. I will keep you all posted.
Man, I really want one of these for my tC. Will it fit in the cubby under the heater controls and stuff? Or maybe I could mount it with some velcro to the left of the gauges if it won't fit on the steering column without blocking something.
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where is the obd 2 connection in the scion, and has anyone verified if it uses the CAN standard or in fact will owrk?



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