Kodokan_4

I'm considering getting a custom Bilstein setup for my xA, but the cost is CRAZY!

Almost 1/2 as much as the whole car!!!

What is the best coilover setup available for the xA (other than this)?







-Pete

davedavetC

iTrader: (4)

almost 6 g's for coilovers??? they better drive themselves and more! i mean how good can the ride get, what makes bilsteins suspension much better then the next down?

Kodokan_4

I think most non-custom Bilstein kits sell for around $1500 - $1700.

The price of the custom kit is really high.

I must be high for even considering it!

-Pete

davedavetC

iTrader: (4)

lol

Kodokan_4

I read that someone installed a Zeal kit in the xA, but I don't see any kits for the xA on the Zeal website. Anyone know if they are available?

-Pete

gnar-de-gwar

they are, just that i dont think the site is updated

Kodokan_4

Do you know hich Zeal model is available for the xA?

-Pete

ricebean

go with progress coilovers if money is an issue. i have them and they ride great down low.



http://www.partshippers.com/index.ph...roducts_id=806

Kodokan_4

[quote="ricebean"]go with progress coilovers if money is an issue. i have them and they ride great down low.

I don't know how to answer that.

Money is always an issue, but I am considering spending $6,000 on coilovers/shocks & springs.

I'm definitely not looking for inexpensive equipment. I'm looking for the best equipment available. Then I'll decide if I can afford it.

In this case, where the custom Bilstein kit is over 4X the price of other systems (like Zeal ir JIC Magic), I may decide to go for second best.

-Pete

evilBOXevil

...?

The issue obviously isn't having the money...the issue appears to stem from spending more than 3 times what stuff is worth to get it.

RTon20s

I guess I just have to ask... what makes the Billstein coil overs so superior? What do they have that no one else has? I mean, why not look into something Like the D2 offerings?

gnar-de-gwar

because bilstein is "german engineering"...i think...haha...even if its not, I think bilstein is overrated. Good ****, but overrated. I'll take a set of JIC anyday.

superjeer

I have a slightly used (2k miles-ish) set of D2's I need to sell. (selling the car). Look them up, As far as I can tell, they're some of the best for the money. They for for 1.2K or so new. I'll sell mine for $650 shipped. They have high spring rates, so they handle well but are stiff. The height and pring rate adjusters are seperate on the struts, they have adjustable shocks and camber plates.

punksterz626

Bilstein is by far the best suspension company i've ever ride in. Its amazing but for 6Gs, ARE U CRAZY!

Kodokan_4

I've also tried many aftermarket suspension systems, and the best I have ever experienced is Ohlins.

Bilstein has been been around longer, and has had their suspension systems on more championship cars than all of the other companies mentioned in this thread put together.

Many drivers wouldn't appreciate the difference between an inexpensive coilover and a finely-tuned precision coilover. For an average street car, it's no big deal; but this xA is being prepared for slalom and track competition. The degree of control and fine adjustment becomes crucial when the car is always driven at the limits.

My bad for not mentioning the slalom/track element.

-Pete

Kodokan_4

Exactly.

If I was sure that Bilstein would never produce a suspension for the xA, I would definitely buy the custom Bilstein setup. It would be great for the track, and big points at shows.

But what if I buy the $6,000 suspension, and then Bilstein releases it for less than $2,000. That would suck.

For $6,000 I may be able to get another custom setup. I'm also looking into a custom Koni or Ohlins setup with remote reservoirs. (Not that I want to spend $6,000 - but I'm checking out the alternatives.

-Pete

Kodokan_4

Well, the reality of racing is setting in, and I'm having visions of running off the track, and rubber cones bouncing off the car.

Maybe I shouldn't spend a lot of money until I have more experience in the Scion. All of my previous track and slalom rides were rear-wheel drive.

For now, it l;ooks like JIC Magic FLTA2 is the best choice. If I need a better coilover system later, I can always upgrade.

-Pete

punksterz626

Why would you track a scion? If anything, i suggest you go with a Fit for endurance race. Spoon has a killer track FIT.

Kodokan_4

I've already got a heavily modified S2000 which I also slalom/track.

The whole point of racing the Scion is because no one else is doing it, and I want to test it's limits.

I think the Scion could be a competitive slalom car, but I don't know about the track, yet.

I wanna stomp the guts out of those stinkin' FITs!!

-Pete

superjeer

hehehe