i hope this isnt bad....(yes...theres pix)
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Originally Posted by SuperToaster
OOOOOOO I REALLY like the two tone white one. That is nice. Maybe I will get that kit someday..... who makes it? The cambering looks retarded and like you broke an axle...... Not feelin it......
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The rear suspension in xB's and xA's is the same cheep "semi indipendant" POS. Basicly the rear of the car is a trailer pulled by the front wheels. There is NO CAMBER ADJUSTMENT on this type of rear end unless you bend the rear end. So yup, the cars you show in those pictures are in fact busted. Sorry, that much negative camber is too much, it is the result of running wide rear wheel drive offset rims on an axel that was designed for front drive offset rims. The $900 to replace the rear axel would look better as the right rims on the car in the first place.
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Originally Posted by BrEaK_AwaY
the wheels are like that because the box is on bags....
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
The rears are cambered because of Camber Shims. Camber shims are installed to achieved the Camber'd look. No matter how low you drop the rear of an xa or xb there are no camber issues. Camber is used to fit wider wheels that usallly wont fit without camber. And mostly camber is used for aesthetics. They run camber on purpose. Its not because of the rear suspension.
Furthermore, Camber alone does not make tires wear badly, it is a combination of bad toe and camber that eats up tires.
Please do not spread things you know nothing about. You are misleading people into believing false things.
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Originally Posted by bBOXD
Originally Posted by BrEaK_AwaY
the wheels are like that because the box is on bags....
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
The rears are cambered because of Camber Shims. Camber shims are installed to achieved the Camber'd look. No matter how low you drop the rear of an xa or xb there are no camber issues. Camber is used to fit wider wheels that usallly wont fit without camber. And mostly camber is used for aesthetics. They run camber on purpose. Its not because of the rear suspension.
Furthermore, Camber alone does not make tires wear badly, it is a combination of bad toe and camber that eats up tires.
Please do not spread things you know nothing about. You are misleading people into believing false things.
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i agree with bboxd. if it were fully independant rear suspension then it might do that...but on xb's its like running an axle so theres no camber whatsoever no matter how much you raise or lower your car...think of it as 4 wheel trucks using a straight front (axle) thats so they dont have to fool around with camber issues
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sigh, i do know what i am talking about.
we all know the toe is the main reason for tire ware... not camber. MOST vehicles wheels get that camber when on bags and are compeltely lowered. In this case I did not know it wasnt like that for the xB, so excuse me for trying to be of some help. It is unecessary to go off like that. Im sure i have just as much knowledge on suspension as you do. You own an xB, there for you know the camber on it well more than I do, same for me with a tC...
we all know the toe is the main reason for tire ware... not camber. MOST vehicles wheels get that camber when on bags and are compeltely lowered. In this case I did not know it wasnt like that for the xB, so excuse me for trying to be of some help. It is unecessary to go off like that. Im sure i have just as much knowledge on suspension as you do. You own an xB, there for you know the camber on it well more than I do, same for me with a tC...
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not to be mean but, just a thought...maybe next time if you're not sure about a particular subject, don't answer. giving out wrong info is worse than admitting you don't know....hey bboxd, are you running the otg camber shims?
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Originally Posted by BrEaK_AwaY
the wheels are like that because the box is on bags....
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
Dumba$$.
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Originally Posted by Boxer_Rebellion
Originally Posted by BrEaK_AwaY
the wheels are like that because the box is on bags....
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
Dumba$$.
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Go read https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...504&highlight= . Van is making camber shims here in the US now. There is some good information on the toe correction to reduce tire wear.
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Originally Posted by BrEaK_AwaY
Originally Posted by Boxer_Rebellion
Originally Posted by BrEaK_AwaY
the wheels are like that because the box is on bags....
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
when the car is lowered to the max with the bags, the wheels angle themself. the wheels have negative camber
negative camber is bad on the tires, but the pictures shown above, the boxes will not drive like that, they will raise the car to make it at a drivable highest, with the proper camber
Dumba$$.
You are confusing a lot of people here. You already look incredibly stupid and are just digging yourself deeper. Just stop already. There is nothing more for you to prove. Just take it as a learning experience and stop trying to turn it around to somehow make yourself seam right. YOU WERE WRONG! Deal with it and move on.
**FINAL ANSWER to clarify this for everyone**- The rears of Xa's and Xb's will not Camber in no matter how low you drop the car, whether it is on Bags or Coilovers or Springs. Camber is achieved in the rear through Camber shims that are installed behind the Hubs. Lowering your rear will only affect your Toe and not Camber.
