Randode is rockin a custom 4 link suspension in the rear he made. Choppin the front as well. He doesn't have power sterring or windshield wipers because of all the modifications he has done. Randode doesn't even have a regular gas tank he's runnin a fuel cell. Chopped the rear bottom panel so he has no spare tire as well. Laying pinch welds is right on da money! You guys just need 2 see it 2 believe it! Trust me I've seen it first hand many of times. Like weekly!

 

From the ground to the wheel well,
i got 20" in the front, and 18.75" in the rear.

My xB lays hard. It cant lift the tires off the ground, but it does a sick burnout with no weight on the tires.

I gotta give it up to the guy on 20's though.

 

 

bump!!!

 

I'd like to discuss your "low as you can get" idea under the above rational.
If I theoreticly put some 13's (I know, They won't fit) on a bagged B, and drag the bottom of the damn thing off pinch welds, crossmembers and all, then I would be just as low or lower. Right?
If the guy with 20's put on 19's, and dragged, he would be lower........................ period.

Sorry to be an a$$ about this, but your rationalization irritates me, and I feel this unbelieveable need to make this point.
That being said, Randodes car is one of the nicest heavily modified xB's out there, no doubt about it. Its sick! And it could very well be the lowest. But the way to be lower IS by putting on bigger wheels.

I think Randode's box is feature worthy, Call Mini truckin! see what they say!

Thanks all for listening to my rant.

-TR

 

I would have to say you are right on this one. Both xB's have had allot of work done to them to get them that low. Trust me on this I have done the math on how much it would cost to do my xA ( 4 link rasied strut towers ect ) You could go out and put a set of 13's with so low pros on them and stick it on a xB with just a bolts on air ride kit and maybe lay the pinch welds. Now would that make it any lower? No it would not! The dude with the 20's could put some 18's on it and lay it on the ground. So realy both are about the same maybe? I know at most shows I have been to it the had a contest for the lowest the way they did it was to measure the distance from the top of the car or truck to the ground and I have seen them do it from the bottom of the door. So its allways been a debate on how to judge the lowest. My hats off to both of them for having some low a$$ xB's 20's 18's on the ground or not both are kick a$$

 

OK.. I guess I should have been clearer. Because the guy with 20s doesn't have anything posted online of his car draging the pinch on 18s, I have to assume it wouldn't lay with 18s either. It very well could, but until we see proof, we just don't know.

And I assumed (since all of us discussing this seem to have a minitruck background) that the tiny wheels with low profile tires weren't even a consideration.

I look at it like this. Several years back when big rollers really started to take off (When 22s started rolling) it was one thing to be bagged on big wheels. It was a whole nother thing to lay. Until you can lay on whatever wheel you choose, it just doesn't mean anything when you are talking about low.

I guess what I am trying to say is... Randy lays hard on his 18s. He drags. And it is my understanding that he could fit a larger wheel and tire combination. He hasn't done it though, so we can't count it.

The guy with the 20s does not lay. He can also drop the car all the way down and still roll (unless I am mistaken). To me that means he has the wheel and tire clearance, but something else is holding him up from laying.

The way I look at "lowest" is that the physical height of the vehicle has to be taken into consideration first. Whether that be distance from the ground to the pinch, to the bottom of the doors, to the window sill, or to the roof. That being equal, then you look at the wheels. Not the reverse.

Again, this is all taken from pictures and video I have seen of both cars online. I haven't had the good fortune to check out the cars in person. And I can absolutely appreciate the work that has gone into each of these cars. And like BagNasty, I have priced out the materials to get my xB just as low. I've got a truck to finish first though.

 

ok, so to settle this once and for all, i'll measure from the fender to the center of the axle. The smaller measurement wins regardless of the wheel.

 

It does not matter what wheels or tires are on the car if the pinch welds id on the ground the roofs will be equal height. The only way you could be lower is if you went and bent all of the pinch welds in!!!!!

It is like the question which falls to the ground faster a thousand pounds of bricks or a thousand pounds of feathers???

Neither they are both the same weight.

 

What if he has been grinding/dragging the pinch welds? That means it gets lower as it drags right? That is a good idea, bend those in and maybe it will sit even lower.hhhmmmmm..
Randy?

 

Ogerdgonz, you are right. Things like chops, channels, etc. if they both lay rocker, they are both the same height. But wheel size does play into these kind of things. Laying all the way down on an 18 or 17 is one thing. (An accomplishment in and of it's self.) But laying that far down on larger wheels is something else.

It plays toward a level of "extremity" if you will. How far are you willing to go? How much are you willing to cut. Some will do just as much fabrication work (if not more) and make a concious decision not to go with bigger rollers.

And "mywifesbox" doing things like bending the pinch welds isn't such a great idea. Even dragging them on occasion puts you at a pretty great risk on the long run. Since technically these function as a structural component on the vehicle.

Then again, I knew guys "back in the day" who could lay their long since bagged S-10s next to freshly bagged models and sit more than 1/2" lower! Where did the 1/2" go" Spread out evenly over thousands of miles of asphalt. Probably even more dangerous on those trucks than the pinch on our cars.

 

I realize that. He's dragging them off anyways. Bend them up so it will last a little longer, but Randode always has a reason for what he does.

 

i do? i just do what feels good.

 

maybe if the dude on 20's used correct sized tires or smaller anyways he could lay pinch weld

 

that sounds like the way to judge it correctly....

lets find this guy... im interested to see what he thinks...

 

^^^hes not on SL, he is on myspace though.

 

here I am R-dawg........... I dont care who's lower it was just fun to build, thats what I do for fun or on vacation.........

but randode I just went out side and measured the back fender to center of rim and I got
7 3/4

 

I just went out side and measured the back fender to center of rim and I got
6 7/8

thanks for playing whooooooooooos looooooooower (insert cheezy gameshow music here)


seriously though, ur car is the hotness.

 

Bery nice

 

WOW - Some serious metal work rhere !!!!