Scion BIG brakes
 

Im thinking of going with the wilwood's in the front (4 pistoen superlite) and i was reading old posts and ive noticed that only kingsmart sells a read disc conversion, has naybody used this rear disc conversion? Or has anybody tried the kingsmart brake system (front)... Please let me know because i really want to make my scion stop ona dime.

Save your money, go with just pads, SS lines, slotted rotors and ATE or Motul fluid...

^^^^ agreed, good pads with ss lines and good fluid will be a lot cheaper and will supply more than enough stopping power for the xB.

EBC Greenstuff Pads
Stainless Steel Brake Lines
Quality Brake Fluid
Slotted or O.E. Rotors

Big brake kits are good on a high horsepower application but are not really needed on your box, or the xA for that matter. :doh: The O.E. stuff does a really excellent job and performance gains in braking are not really made w/ slots or drills. The stopping power comes from the ability to dissipate heat and prevent fading. The more pad surface = more dissipation = better braking power. However, you can actually lose performance hp and torque wise with a big rim/ big brake setup because you are placing more un-sprung weight farther from the center of rotation, this can decrease acceleration and actually increase braking distance if improperly used. :no: So if you are not running a 12sec box on 20in rims, just go with a setup I suggested (or another option in this post) and keep it to a minimal cost for the most performance.

Ciao,
Gen
P.S. Slotted rotors help with gas build-up on the pad surface but are probably only going to aid your braking in a road-course type condition. Even Supercar manufacturers will tell you that slotted and drilled rotors are mostly for cosmetic purposes, that is why they run a large rotor to get the look they want and maintain performance of a smaller O.E. blank :lalala:

high on scion also sells the rear kit, but it is 300 more than kingsmart.

good thread. on my old 2000 toy corolla i added kvm semi metallic pads and thats all...and it made a difference

with my box im going to go with better pads, and ss brake lines, ive done some reading on ss brake lines and i wish i had found them for my old corolla...seems like a very nice upgrade..though dont know if i would be able to install them lol im still a newb, but have done brake pads before

can anyone give me a link to these rear disk conversions?

My least favorite part of the xB is the rear drums. Horrible, just horrible...

thanks!

i'll find it for you, but just to let you know, if you do the rear disc conversion, the rotors are going to be bigger than the front ones.

Oh, really?? That blows goats...

What about a stock rear conversion? Nothing out there?

I'd still appreciate a link to the brake upgrades. I might just have to go with 'big brakes' just to get rid of the rear drums...

But yeah, big brakes on a xB is like having a parachute on a bicycle...

this company sells a big brake kit for the scion xA
http://www.kingsmart.com.hk/products...DNN-BR21-00006

http://highonscion.com/chassisProducts.htm

select number 3 from the drop down list. same kit as kingsmart, but a little more descriptive.

So it's really gonna cost me ~$700+ to get rid of those drums?

I don't even want big brakes. I really just want a stock replacement for the drums...

Now that I think more about it, big brakes would be bad, because then I couldn't use the steelies as winter tires...

That would suck.

I need a stock or equivelant rear brake swap.

First company that comes out with it, gets my money.

Ready, go!