will 2000 to 2002 Toyota Echo shocks and struts fit?
07-08-2006, 05:32 AM
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Slid the Monroe 5987's under my xB today, a very easy job (just make sure to put that really thin washer in where it belongs - BELOW the metal cup).
Difference in ride was readily apparent even just on the short 3 mile drive home. Made a suprising difference on the 'speed bumps' in the apartment parking lot, too.
Difference in ride was readily apparent even just on the short 3 mile drive home. Made a suprising difference on the 'speed bumps' in the apartment parking lot, too.
07-08-2006, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomas
The Monroe Sensatrac 5987 for the 2002 Echo sedan is an excellent replacement for the rear shocks on the xB with stock springs.
Those Monroes fit properly and give a much less brutal ride than the overly stiff OEM shocks.
Quite a few folks have done this swap (or a very similar one for some lowered xBs - shorter shocks - 5870) to get a better ride.
Those Monroes fit properly and give a much less brutal ride than the overly stiff OEM shocks.
Quite a few folks have done this swap (or a very similar one for some lowered xBs - shorter shocks - 5870) to get a better ride.
07-08-2006, 04:41 PM
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Thanks, I also found these, would they work better or just the same?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-06...spagenameZWDVW
and what part # should I go with the 5987 or the 5870?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-06...spagenameZWDVW
and what part # should I go with the 5987 or the 5870?
07-19-2006, 04:36 AM
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Assuming you are talking about the Monroes for the rear:
Got mine at Sears... They didn't have any locally (well, none closer than Billings, MT) so they ordered 'em in - took 6 days.
They did the free install, no problem.
I had 'em look up the 2002 Toyota Echo sedan to order replacements for, had 'em change the vehicle to a 2005 xB for the free installation so their 'warranty' is on the right vehicle.
No problems.
(Had I run into any problem, the local NAPA store could have ordered in their "NAPA" brand - made by same company, carry same part numbers, etc. They are just private-branded Monroes. They claimed ten day max to get 'em.)
Good luck.
Got mine at Sears... They didn't have any locally (well, none closer than Billings, MT) so they ordered 'em in - took 6 days.
They did the free install, no problem.
I had 'em look up the 2002 Toyota Echo sedan to order replacements for, had 'em change the vehicle to a 2005 xB for the free installation so their 'warranty' is on the right vehicle.
No problems.
(Had I run into any problem, the local NAPA store could have ordered in their "NAPA" brand - made by same company, carry same part numbers, etc. They are just private-branded Monroes. They claimed ten day max to get 'em.)
Good luck.
07-21-2006, 05:56 PM
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I do feel like a post ***** on this subject, but just wondering do i need the boots?
also on the lowered applications do i have to cut the bump stop?
and does anyone know if sears will install them out of the car? I want to do it right, i did the lowering job on my car solo, but now i'm financially ok to have someone else do it this time around
also on the lowered applications do i have to cut the bump stop?
and does anyone know if sears will install them out of the car? I want to do it right, i did the lowering job on my car solo, but now i'm financially ok to have someone else do it this time around
07-22-2006, 12:54 AM
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alright i just bought the 5870's for the rear. although mine are not monroe shocks. They are NAPA sensatrac's. are they the same? i figured they are just with the NAPA name stamped on the box.
Now the other question i had was i will be installing some Tein S-Tech's. Do i go with the 5870's or the other ones (forgot the #)? Ive read other post where some went with the other and have a smooth ride, and some went with the 5870's and had a smoother ride also, which makes me even more confused
let me know guys!
Now the other question i had was i will be installing some Tein S-Tech's. Do i go with the 5870's or the other ones (forgot the #)? Ive read other post where some went with the other and have a smooth ride, and some went with the 5870's and had a smoother ride also, which makes me even more confused
let me know guys!
07-22-2006, 01:35 AM
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"Tenneco" is the manufacturer and ONE of their brands is "Monroe."
Your NAPA shocks are made by Tenneco, and are the same design - and part number - as the one's they put out under their monroe brand name.
(http://www.tenneco.com/brands/monroe.html)
The SensaTrac shocks have different 'stiffness' in the center of their range than they do near the ends of their travel, which is one big reason why they give a smoother, less stiff ride when properly matched to the suspension.
One of the reasons for using the 5870s instead of the 5987s with a lowered vehicle is to keep the middle of the shock travel closer to the 'normal' position of the suspension so that the shock works as designed: a smoother ride with increasing stiffness the farther the suspension is from 'normal.'
With a roughly 2" lower suspension height, the 5870s are closer to the center of their 'special' range at your normal ride height than the longer 5987s would be, while with my 'stock' suspension height, the 5987s are a perfect match.
BTW, my first extended trip with the 5987s certainly proved their value to me. The ride quality was vastly improved over the OEM shocks. :D
Your NAPA shocks are made by Tenneco, and are the same design - and part number - as the one's they put out under their monroe brand name.
(http://www.tenneco.com/brands/monroe.html)
The SensaTrac shocks have different 'stiffness' in the center of their range than they do near the ends of their travel, which is one big reason why they give a smoother, less stiff ride when properly matched to the suspension.
One of the reasons for using the 5870s instead of the 5987s with a lowered vehicle is to keep the middle of the shock travel closer to the 'normal' position of the suspension so that the shock works as designed: a smoother ride with increasing stiffness the farther the suspension is from 'normal.'
With a roughly 2" lower suspension height, the 5870s are closer to the center of their 'special' range at your normal ride height than the longer 5987s would be, while with my 'stock' suspension height, the 5987s are a perfect match.
BTW, my first extended trip with the 5987s certainly proved their value to me. The ride quality was vastly improved over the OEM shocks. :D
07-22-2006, 01:37 AM
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They're the same as the Monroes.. The Napa ones.
They will work with S-Tech's. You will just notice that when you jack up the rear of the car ... Since they are a shorter shock (5870's) .. That you don't need to jack up the car all the way to remove the tire... Kinda cool.
They do give a smoother ride, especially over bumps and not so smooth pavement.. The front stock struts.. are a different story. hehe
They will work with S-Tech's. You will just notice that when you jack up the rear of the car ... Since they are a shorter shock (5870's) .. That you don't need to jack up the car all the way to remove the tire... Kinda cool.
They do give a smoother ride, especially over bumps and not so smooth pavement.. The front stock struts.. are a different story. hehe
07-22-2006, 04:03 PM
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With everyone saying its the best mod turst me I'll give an indeep opinon about this. My back has been hurting for over amonth, so far i've :
Bought a new desk that is taller
Buying a new chair that is more supportive
buying the rear shocks
bought a massage thing and a crap load of icey hot
Bought a new desk that is taller
Buying a new chair that is more supportive
buying the rear shocks
bought a massage thing and a crap load of icey hot
07-22-2006, 11:28 PM
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well i should be doing the install later today. the only concern i have is after i lower it. Im afraid of going up driveways. looking at the ride height now makes me cringe at what its gonna look like later. all you guys lowered let me know if you have any problems with scraping.
07-22-2006, 11:36 PM
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oh also when i opened the boxes for the shocks it came with a little bag off round rubber things and 2 washers and a nut. this will be the first time ever that i have put on shocks myself. Would someone be able to tell me exactly how to replace the rears? I know my dad may know but I dont wanna go and break something. let me know!
