I'd like to go this route w/ some wheels I'm looking at, but I've got a few questions...

camber - aside from tire wear, has anyone experienced any other "problems" w/ the OTG camber plates? don't get me wrong, I think the OTG plates are as good as it gets. however, I just want to get all the info. I can since I do a lot of driving. any problems w/ bearings? any problems w/ the brakes?

staggered - I'm looking at the 15 x 7 and 15 x 8 pri/sportmax rims. I really like the 205/50/15 on the 8's. but what size would give me the same look/ mild stretch? I'd like to run the same size tire on the 7's, but that wouldn't look right, would it? what do ya do for rotations if you're setup is staggered?

thanks. seriously, thanks. every question I've had over the past year and a half, I've had answered - and have been able to help others along the way. the ScionLife website and community are a God send.

 

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i have 205/50's with the 15x8's.
it's a nice, noticable stretch.

hopefully the dudes
in StylebB can help me
run -5/-6camber on these bad boys.


other than that, good luck.
there should be someone to
answer the rest

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=123473

 

I have used the otg camber plates, no problems at all. I have 215's on my 9" wheels and they have a mild stretch... So you should be good with a 205.... good luck

 

I use the OTG cmaber spacers as well and havent had any problems. even took the car to the track and didnt have a problem with them on.

 

There may be an issue negative rear toe (toed out) with OTG camber shims in this thread.
But with the SPC shims I mentioned you can readjust rear toe.


Shouldn't this topic be in Suspension & Handling?

 

they are toe'd out for a reason: to HELP with tire wear. i ahve the OTG camber AND spacer shims and have had zero trouble. my tire wear with near -4 degrees is flawless

 

The toe on the OTG camber shims will be out of spec. They advertise them as having built in toe correction but it wasnt within spec on my car. I was measured at - 4 degrees in the rear on both sides.

I would run 195/55/15. I like that look better than the 205 and its closer to stock tire size.

 

i used nitto neo gens and plan o having some toyo's . they are designed for camber. no tear and wear on the nitto neo gens

 

hold it. Toe is horizontal and camber is vertical. you're telling me your toe was -4 degrees? I doubt it.

I'm not too worried about camber other than tire wear. I know I can buy special tires, but the toe will effect the wear as much, if not more, than the camber.

hewhat I want to know is: do the OTG camber shims really keep the toe w/in spec? or at least reasonably close? and has anyone w/ camber experienced any other problems?

 

You will see more toe problems the lower you go in the rear if you introduce additional camber. This is the nature of the rear suspension design. Think of it like this...

At stock height when you introduces camber your wheel does this... \

Now since our rear suspension uses a single pivot point as we lower our vehicle the whole "axle" (torsion beam) rotates about that pivot point. As you go lower what was once the top of your tire is now tilted forward.

Like this...
Stock axle position and arc of suspension travel... --)

The apex of that curve is where your suspension is stock. And if you drew a line perpendicular to the axle at the suspension arc it would point to the top of the tire. Like this... --|

Now when you lower it, it is more like this... /)

That means that the precious top of your tire has been rotated forward about the suspension's arc. Drawing your perpendicular line would look more like this...>) Or something like that.

I know that is a super extreme example, but that is the best I can do to get the basic principals across using the limited characters on my keyboard.

That means that the camber you added at stock height becomes toe-in as you lower the vehicle, or toe-out as you raise it.

 

i think the toe they designed into the camber plates was made to be optimal on lowered cars (2"+)

 

Read what Van had to say:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=989184#989184
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...004317#1004317

I personally prefer the AbRoller analogy...lol

 

Rico-

you the man. I did a search for camber - but obviously missed this. I was just about to email Van - I knew he would answer any questions. he's a good guy w/ great products. speaking of good guys - thanks.