Carbon fiber engine cover
#1
Carbon fiber engine cover
Just saw this posted on scion-owners.com:
See http://www.iptmotorsports.com/
If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it
(Yeah, I know this isn't really an exterior mod but it didn't belong under "Power Hungry" either!)
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See http://www.iptmotorsports.com/
If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it
(Yeah, I know this isn't really an exterior mod but it didn't belong under "Power Hungry" either!)
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List price is a mere $285. I mean it's nice and everything but it's almost as much as a CF hood! Looks like it's spray paint for me.
List price is a mere $285. I mean it's nice and everything but it's almost as much as a CF hood! Looks like it's spray paint for me.
#8
you couldn't get it done and sell it for 180.00
learn about the product a bit
the is autoclaved and vacum packed carbon fiber composite part..
NOT WET LAMINATE !
But
PRE-PREG
here is a explanation
you don't want a wet laminate part under your hood reason why is it will melt and cause a fire if you dont believe me ask the nsxprime.com guys and the supraforums.com guys
a company came in making cheap fiberglass parts with one sheet of carbon laminated on top of it and 5 nsx guys cars went up in flames..
IPT uses a THERMOSET Resin so this will not happen..
IPT Parts are made in the U.S.A. there is not one piece of fiberglass in IPT parts all carbon fiber there is also not clearcoat on IPT parts it comes out of the mold glossy
Here is a little explanation
Wet lay-Up or Pre-Preg?
In the wet Lay up process, a dry carbon-fiber mat is placed in the mold, and then the resin is poured and brushed into the carbon fiber cloth.
Pre-preg refers to a particular kind of carbon-fiber mat that has resin pre-impregnated in the cloth. Heat releases the resin from the cloth, so pre-preg mats must be keep cold until ready to use.
Each has its advantages and disadvantages. Dry carbon-fiber mats are less expensive than pre-preg and don’t require special handling before use. But the brush/pour method of adding resin is inexact and can be tough to control, so there’s a risk of having too much or too little resin in the cloth. Plus, the act of brushing the resin onto the cloth can cause the cloth to shift in the mold, which could result in an uneven weave pattern or snag in the cloth.
With pre-preg, the right amount of resin is already in the mat so there’s zero risk of over or under-coating the cloth. And since there’s no brushing, the mat won’t move once it’s in the mold, which will keep the weave even. But pre-preg is significantly more expensive than dry cloth/wet Lay-up.
The process IPT uses to manufacture True-Mold Parts
IPT Starts with pre-preg sheets of carbon fiber mat. Then the mold comes a carbon-fiber part is only as good as its mold.
So a lot of time and effort are put into constructing the mold. The smoother the mold the smoother the finish of the final product will be.
This will bring out the shine in the carbon fiber. No clear coats are applied to IPT carbon products the trick is in the mold.
Once that is done we lay the carbon fiber into to the molds. Getting the carbon fiber to adhere to the contours of the mold requires it to be put under pressure; the easiest way to pressurize a part is by using a vacuum bag.
The vacuum pulls between 28psi about twice the normal atmospheric pressure at sea level to suck the carbon fiber down into the mold.
After the vacuuming the mold is placed into an autoclave and cured via pressure (up to 100psi) and heat (anywhere from 250 to 350 Fahrenheit) After the part comes out of the autoclave we pop it out of the mold.
One side of the pre-preg carbon mat had higher resin content, and that side was put down on the mold to achieve the glossy result.
Parker Daniel
www.iptmotorsports.com
learn about the product a bit
the is autoclaved and vacum packed carbon fiber composite part..
NOT WET LAMINATE !
But
PRE-PREG
here is a explanation
you don't want a wet laminate part under your hood reason why is it will melt and cause a fire if you dont believe me ask the nsxprime.com guys and the supraforums.com guys
a company came in making cheap fiberglass parts with one sheet of carbon laminated on top of it and 5 nsx guys cars went up in flames..
IPT uses a THERMOSET Resin so this will not happen..
IPT Parts are made in the U.S.A. there is not one piece of fiberglass in IPT parts all carbon fiber there is also not clearcoat on IPT parts it comes out of the mold glossy
Here is a little explanation
Wet lay-Up or Pre-Preg?
In the wet Lay up process, a dry carbon-fiber mat is placed in the mold, and then the resin is poured and brushed into the carbon fiber cloth.
Pre-preg refers to a particular kind of carbon-fiber mat that has resin pre-impregnated in the cloth. Heat releases the resin from the cloth, so pre-preg mats must be keep cold until ready to use.
Each has its advantages and disadvantages. Dry carbon-fiber mats are less expensive than pre-preg and don’t require special handling before use. But the brush/pour method of adding resin is inexact and can be tough to control, so there’s a risk of having too much or too little resin in the cloth. Plus, the act of brushing the resin onto the cloth can cause the cloth to shift in the mold, which could result in an uneven weave pattern or snag in the cloth.
With pre-preg, the right amount of resin is already in the mat so there’s zero risk of over or under-coating the cloth. And since there’s no brushing, the mat won’t move once it’s in the mold, which will keep the weave even. But pre-preg is significantly more expensive than dry cloth/wet Lay-up.
The process IPT uses to manufacture True-Mold Parts
IPT Starts with pre-preg sheets of carbon fiber mat. Then the mold comes a carbon-fiber part is only as good as its mold.
So a lot of time and effort are put into constructing the mold. The smoother the mold the smoother the finish of the final product will be.
This will bring out the shine in the carbon fiber. No clear coats are applied to IPT carbon products the trick is in the mold.
Once that is done we lay the carbon fiber into to the molds. Getting the carbon fiber to adhere to the contours of the mold requires it to be put under pressure; the easiest way to pressurize a part is by using a vacuum bag.
The vacuum pulls between 28psi about twice the normal atmospheric pressure at sea level to suck the carbon fiber down into the mold.
After the vacuuming the mold is placed into an autoclave and cured via pressure (up to 100psi) and heat (anywhere from 250 to 350 Fahrenheit) After the part comes out of the autoclave we pop it out of the mold.
One side of the pre-preg carbon mat had higher resin content, and that side was put down on the mold to achieve the glossy result.
Parker Daniel
www.iptmotorsports.com
#10
Thats a nice painted carbon fiber part :?
that is screen printed not real carbon fiber
parker
www.iptms.com
that is screen printed not real carbon fiber
parker
www.iptms.com
#12
Originally Posted by showpaojoe
Funny if he paid the $280
that screen printed part is not a IPT TrueMold Part
IPT
Parker
www.iptms.com
#15
Originally Posted by IPT
you couldn't get it done and sell it for 180.00
learn about the product a bit
the is autoclaved and vacum packed carbon fiber composite part..
NOT WET LAMINATE
learn about the product a bit
the is autoclaved and vacum packed carbon fiber composite part..
NOT WET LAMINATE
#16
Originally Posted by bBted
just wanna let you kno, my friend bought it from japan for me when i went on vacation....
so i kno what it is....
so i kno what it is....
#17
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A little over 4 months ago I posted for the exact same thing. One friend owns a company that makes CF parts for racing go karts. He was gonna make one of the covers but the cost is very expensive..like around $275-290 as well. This is because it was all CF and no fiberglass.
The problem as mentioned is that no one would be willing to pay that much for a cover when they can get other parts for the same price and make a more noticable difference aesthetically such as a CF or CK hood or splitter (Nish Designs) or a lip kit (like bBist and Red Genie).
That IPT cover is nice....maybe we can get a group buy going and see what price we can get them for..
If the price is right and there are takers..then it's a good deal for everyone.
The problem as mentioned is that no one would be willing to pay that much for a cover when they can get other parts for the same price and make a more noticable difference aesthetically such as a CF or CK hood or splitter (Nish Designs) or a lip kit (like bBist and Red Genie).
That IPT cover is nice....maybe we can get a group buy going and see what price we can get them for..
If the price is right and there are takers..then it's a good deal for everyone.
#18
Originally Posted by scioninla
A little over 4 months ago I posted for the exact same thing. One friend owns a company that makes CF parts for racing go karts. He was gonna make one of the covers but the cost is very expensive..like around $275-290 as well. This is because it was all CF and no fiberglass.
The problem as mentioned is that no one would be willing to pay that much for a cover when they can get other parts for the same price and make a more noticable difference aesthetically such as a CF or CK hood or splitter (Nish Designs) or a lip kit (like bBist and Red Genie).
That IPT cover is nice....maybe we can get a group buy going and see what price we can get them for..
If the price is right and there are takers..then it's a good deal for everyone.
The problem as mentioned is that no one would be willing to pay that much for a cover when they can get other parts for the same price and make a more noticable difference aesthetically such as a CF or CK hood or splitter (Nish Designs) or a lip kit (like bBist and Red Genie).
That IPT cover is nice....maybe we can get a group buy going and see what price we can get them for..
If the price is right and there are takers..then it's a good deal for everyone.
this is actually the cheapest part we carry
compared to the guys with is300's supra and 350Z's celica's these guys will spend almost 800 for a whole kit .
we have sold 17 scion covers today and i dont think that would be fair for a group buy not right now i can hear my customers (screaming at me if i did that) the ones that allready bought
But i would entertain the idea lets say a month from now
let me know if you want to host the group buy that would be great
Parker
www.iptms.com