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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:33 AM
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Another ? on oem fogs. I want to remove the lens to blackout the housing. Any preferred method? I assume some sort of oven baking or water boiling?
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Id say oven baking, but I have no experience myself..
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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Yeah. For baking I would like to know temp/time. Do not want to bake them beyond recognition, if you know what I mean...
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There was another thread on this no too long ago.

The foglight housing is diecast metal and the lens is plastic. It seems to be attached by a bead of some sort of slilicone type of sealer. I doubt that baking will work. The lens will probably melt before the sealant will let go.
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Good point. Oh well...
You think water boiling might do it?
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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not tryin' to threadjack, but how do you remove the OEM fog light from the xB? do you go from the outside or from the engine bay- or do you have to completely remove the front bumper?

i remember putting them in was a snap, but i can't get them out for the life of me... and i'm ruining my paintjob trying to pry them out! argh
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bigslimm
Good point. Oh well...
You think water boiling might do it?
I doubt it. Water boils at 212F when ovens (used for headlight baking) probably use higher temperatures.
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 03:21 AM
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Noservice -
A fog is removed by releasing the locking tabs on the two mounting brackets on the rear (technically the adjuster and locater). Two tabs per bracket. Squeeze the tabs and push out. I recommend dropping the bumper to get to them. Much easier than trying to fish around from below or above. Practilcally impossibe if you do not know where they are.
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hmm... still trying, its sad that i installed them myself in 05 and now i know its just a simple thing, but i cant find the clips.... eventually i will... thanks bigslimm
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I was able to pop mine out with a screw driver wrapped in a terry cloth. As far as removing the lens, I have no idea.
Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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If you drop the bumper you will have easy access to the back of the lights. Only takes ten minutes to drop the bumber. Seven minutes if you have done it before.

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Were you able to put them back securely? No damage to the bracket?
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and by drop, you mean remove?.... and where's the guide for screw locations to 'drop' a bumper?
Old Sep 9, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Yes, remove. Some guys do just 'drop' it. IE. there are about four flexible brackets on the bottom chassis. If you remove all but those bottom connections, then the bumper will bend/drop down. I am used to removing the whole thing; but 'dropping' is sufficient to get to the lights.

Do a search here on the forum. There are a couple good writeups.

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Ok. Found one.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5078

Here he is talking about preparing to clear the corners, which includes dropping the bumper.

The technical specs are located in the service manual. I have one. If you really need more info, pm me and maybe I can send you the details.
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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w00t! just changed my foglights.... thanks bigslimm.... you don't think inside the box... and thanks you for that...
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Cool.
Now you can do me a favor and find out how to remove those damn lenses!!!
Seems like thats going to require inside and outside thinking.
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 05:11 AM
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i think some people were saying not to oven fogs... but theres just clips you use a screwdriver and just pop out... don't that work?
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never heard of boiling water for lights. must be a big pot.
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Originally Posted by firesquare
never heard of boiling water for lights. must be a big pot.
Lobster pot would do the trick. I would not suggest boiling the fogs, youll cloud the clear lense.

If there was a local chrome shop i would have my fogs done in a heart beat. They desperately need it. IMHO a light with no reflective backing just isnt a light.

If you do plan on baking your fogs ... i would try 250 degrees for about 8 to 10 minutes. I believe that is the process everyone is using to bake head lights. The only problem is that when you re-bake them there is a good chance the seal wont seal correctly, then you will have fog in your fog lights. I clear all my headlights by the smash and clip method, rather then baking.
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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If you see my first post in this thread you'll notice that baking (or boiling or any other type of cooking) will probably not work. Silicone sealant softens in mych higher temperatures than plastic lens. So, the lens would melt before the silicone lets go.

One can always use the big hammer method. But that will work as remove-only method.

As far as fully chromed reflectors go - there is no need to have anything custom chromed. Toyota already does that for you:
http://www.newscionparts.com/product/?id=478
Its plug-n-play! I didn't like the dull look of the Scion OEM fogs either so I got myself a pair of those.

but we digress off-topic...
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Its all good.

I am pretty much resigned to the fact that the oem lenses are not coming off - in one piece that is. Breaking them out seems probable. Thing is - how to get replacement lenses? That seems not in the realm of possibility. No way I know of acquiring JUST the lenses.



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