yeah easiest way it from full to half or full to 1/4

 

I drive 80mph on the hwy and a good deal of city. I still avg 300 miles plus to a tank.

 

I have gas right now...wait. We are not talking about that kind of gas.

Sorry.

 

Theoretically a lowered box should get better milage because less air would travel beneath the vehicle and all of those unsmooth surfaces and adding drag.

You know the longer this discussion goes the more I'm beginning to remember and get ticked off about the xB gas milage. I had a 1986, 124WB Ford Econoline with a 4-speed on the floor that got 28 MPG after I put an airdam on the front!:? :? :?

 

I wasn't saying lowering the car upsets fuel economy, rather lowering the car upsets your fuel guage reading.

 

I was throwing in my 2 cents. But if the car is still level how would the gauge be affected?

 

He was saying that some people are not level, such as with the Tein S-tech, Hotchkis, or RSR springs. For example, the RSR drop is about 2" in the front and 1.2" in the rear. That's a pretty noticable difference.

But of course, when you fill up the gas tank and it says you only used 8 gallons... even if your trip meter only says 260, you're still getting over 30 MPG, so that's really a moot point.

You know, EPA estimates are never right. People keep freaking out about how they're not getting 60MPG in their Priuses, but they should just get over it. There are just too many factors that come into play: driving style, location, temperature, load, modifications, thermonucleic proton deflecting particle density dividends... ;)

 

Just like why we bought a Scion.. style, safety, etc etc etc..
If you live downtown and drive in bumper to bumper all the time, get a Prius. Save money. If you live in the boondocks and drive 80 MPH, don't complain that it's the same mileage as... oh, lemme take a shot.. a Civic?

 

my civic got over 30 mpg even after 225000 miles.....the box BARELY gets 27 in florida, no hills, expressway 80 % of the time....all under 4 thou rpms....

and for the record, i saw Mytbusters lastnight (caught tail end of it) and they ran 2 of the same casrs around a track one with A/c one w out it on.....the one WITH got 8 MILES less to the tank..NOT a very noticeable diff....just wanted to throw that out there...didnt feel like rereading 3 pages of posts...

 

got 200miles on a half tank yesterday, switched to lower octane runnin on 87 now

 

I have been disappointed with MPG since day one. My gevetching is well documented in the archives.

I have stock everything -automatic - have yet to modify the interior as I want. Usually I'm the only one in the car (170 lbs). I keep the tire pressure at 36 psi. I drive like a granny (70 and under) and have never redlined it.

MPG sucks and is getting worse. During break-in (up to 3000 miles) I was averaging 29 miles per gallon, Now, at 5000 miles I'm getting 27 mpg. I live in California, so its not like my car is freezing at night and lowering the milage.
I calculate milage at each fill (# miles / gals)

I typically get 240 -290 miles per tank and fill up at 1/4 tank.

I'm very jealous of folks who are getting better gas milage than I.

 

[Yea that is about what I get. I am half way through my gas and I am at 150miles. For some reason I expected it to be more since my Saturn gets the same mileage and I thought my Saturn sucked but I guess I never did the math.]

how big is your tank in the Saturn compared to the scion? You may get the same number of miles per tank, but I'll bet the Saturn costs more to fill up. [/quote]

 

Interesting claims CaliMan but a lot of people here seem to disagree.
Please prove us wrong and provide data and links to information.
We would love to have a product that can boost our MPG and HP.

 

33 mpg's today. Used a calculator.

 

I know someone getting 75MPG in a Prius...he never drives long enough going to work for the gas engine to start up...but thanks to rush hour on the way home taking 35 minutes it gets charged up.

 

i just got 290 on a full tank. wouldda been like 330 or more but i decided to race some peeps and drive like a jackass. so u know. i got 190 miles at half tank but then i started driving like a dumbass so ya know.

 

Cali gas is oxygenated to burn cleaner, but it cuts the mileage...

 

ummmm its called regulated emissions! they program the computer to use the least amount of air/gas ratio to reduce emissions wich results in low air/gas intake ratio which results less horsepower. Its simple but logical! Don't deny the chemisty of things untill you proove it ineffective. I notice a huge differance in my car. If you wanna try it I'll send you one. just so you can see if it works!!!

 

This chip is placed between the air sensor and harness. what this 3.3ohm resistor does is sends a signal to the computer that air is currently 32 degree's. pushing more gasoline and air into your car will not effect your engine. This mod does not make your engine light turn on like other chips do. Jet chips cuase engine problems, overwhelming signals for heavier gas / air ratio's. Plus they are all different specs for different cars. xB require 3.3ohm resistors. this is a simple change in engine chemistly letting the engine computer do the rest of the calculations! This chip is easy to instal and remove. all you need is electrical tape and 10 minutes to the let the engine run. I'm willing to send 5 sample chips to your guys as long as you give me your feedback!!! first five must pm me to get on the list!

 

240-290 miles per 3/4 tank is 30-36 MPG (using 8 gallons as a divider)

I filled up for the second time, and averaged 31 MPG. Only have 538 miles of the box.