Air conditioner goes on with defroster even if its snowing!
A/C doesn't mean it blows cold, but it can. I keep the A/C switch on all year round, and simply adjust the temperature accordingly. "Hot" with A/C means dehumidification and that's what you want when defrosting. You want the same effect in the summer, too.
Originally Posted by tvc15_2000
Now back to the question. How do I turn off the AC while in defroster mode and verify the compressor is not running and just producing heat and reducing gas mileage when AC is not called for.
You're really better off leaving the A/C on with the defroster, though. It helps to remove window fog more quickly and effectively, making things safer. And it is better for your compressor. And, when you're not cooling with the A/C it is not creating as much of a power load on the engine as when you're trying to beat the 100°F heat.
Originally Posted by tvc15_2000
Myth busters is where I saw the info. They re tested the windows open and found that below 50 its more efficient with windows open and over 50 it is more efficient with AC.
I saw the broadcast in early October of this year.
I saw the broadcast in early October of this year.
My beemer was slower with the air on clutch system old r12 and gas mileage was down 3 to 5mpg. Id drive 60mph watch the eccono thingy and turn the air on and wamo would go down.
I was trying to get my ac to kick in, and when I did so, I couldn't tell that anything happened. Should I see a slight decrease in rpm's when I turn it on and the compressor kicks in? If so, then I need to wheel this thing back to the dealership, because NOTHING happens when I turn it on, except for the green light on the AC button lovingly lights up.
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The compressor doesn't work like a conventional one. It doesn't have a clutch that engages in and out. It turns all the time. The difference is internal. It only "compresses" when it needs to. This is why there isn't much difference when it is working.
Originally Posted by jethro_b
The compressor doesn't work like a conventional one. It doesn't have a clutch that engages in and out. It turns all the time. The difference is internal. It only "compresses" when it needs to. This is why there isn't much difference when it is working. 
slngsht: If you suspect that the a/c might not be working, pop the hood and check the little glass window on the air conditioning line. You should see bursts of liquid (compressed refrigerant) moving through there when the a/c is on, and it should diminish once you turn the a/c off.
Here's what you're looking for: (This is on a 2006 xA so your engine compartment may be a little different)
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Originally Posted by mrjon
Originally Posted by jethro_b
The compressor doesn't work like a conventional one. It doesn't have a clutch that engages in and out. It turns all the time. The difference is internal. It only "compresses" when it needs to. This is why there isn't much difference when it is working. 
slngsht: If you suspect that the a/c might not be working, pop the hood and check the little glass window on the air conditioning line. You should see bursts of liquid (compressed refrigerant) moving through there when the a/c is on, and it should diminish once you turn the a/c off.
Here's what you're looking for: (This is on a 2006 xA so your engine compartment may be a little different)

Originally Posted by no-scion
i can't believe this is even a topic...
if AC goes on and you don't want it then hmmmmm...
TURN IT OFF!!!!
DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
idiots annoy me
if AC goes on and you don't want it then hmmmmm...
TURN IT OFF!!!!
DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
idiots annoy me
Did you read any of this thread prior to posting. Are you annoyed with yourself?
Originally Posted by no-scion
i can't believe this is even a topic...
if AC goes on and you don't want it then hmmmmm...
TURN IT OFF!!!!
DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
idiots annoy me
if AC goes on and you don't want it then hmmmmm...
TURN IT OFF!!!!
DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
idiots annoy me
The discussion is about the automated controls in the vehicle overriding user selection via the dash controls, and running the A/C per it's programmed instructions. This is not something the user really has a choice about. Many of the climate controls in this vehicle are only taken as "suggestions" by the heating and air conditioning system. It turns the A/C on and of when IT wants to, and opens the recirculate air door according to ITS desires, etc.
Then again, the understanding and intelligence you show here matches that shown in most of your 9 other posts.
Originally Posted by TheScionicMan
So, to sum this up, it is a designed feature, not an oversight or flaw. All new cars work this way.
Japanese manufactures have only recently (the last 10 years or so) added this feature.
Once Toyota started selling hundreds of thousands of Camrys per year in the mid to late '90's, people started complaining, in droves, about moisture on the inside of the windows on their Camrys. After investigation, Toyota found an alarming number of people who always drove with the recirculation mode on, leading to excessive moisture build-up in the cabin. They issued info to owners to select the fresh-air mode. In addtion, they encouraged owners to use the A/C with the temp adjusted to their liking on damp days.
Still, the problem persisted. So, Toyota did the only thing it could......link the A/C and defrost. Within a few years, all Toyota products included is feature.
Bottom line? We Americans just weren't smart enough to figure how to properly use our HVAC systems.
American manufactures have know this for years.
the a/c doesnt have much of an effect on the fuel economy of my xb.
i've been driving with the a/c on since i bought it. the last two tanks i kept it turned off to see the difference. the difference was so small that it could have been cause by idling longer with the cold mornings we've been having lately.
i've been driving with the a/c on since i bought it. the last two tanks i kept it turned off to see the difference. the difference was so small that it could have been cause by idling longer with the cold mornings we've been having lately.



