So I was scheduled to have my Webasto Panoramic Moonroof installed in my
box today...but I got a call.

"Um, I'm sorry Eric, but Wabasto is no longer supporting the Panoramic Moonroof
in the xB...they have had some roof buckling issues"

So I do some research, talk to the service manager, and sure enough
No Moonroof for YOU!

I just thought I'd give a heads up to those like Fujiz who already have one installed.
Keep a good watch on it man, and I wouldn't recommend autocrossing anytime
soon! LOL

I dropped off my box at the dealership today, they are taking measurements
for me as this is what I want them to do in place of the Panoramic:

Webasto Dual 3630 Sunroof

 

Damn that sucks

 

anyone call webasto and ask?

~wC

 

Yes, I did call Webasto, sorry I didn't elucidate that point.

 

oh ok...just wanted to make sure the dealer wasn blowin smoke up your @$$...

~wC

 

Good info. thanks.

 

How much installed?

 

Yeah real good info.. i was going to get one of those.. The place in ga wanted 1100 installed for the panromaic one

 

Wow, the cheapest I've seen for the Panoramic (through
the dealership) for $1755. I wasn't quoted a price for the
dual Webasto setup, I think they are cutting me deal for
Customer Satisfaction issues. Otherwise I think it would be at
least $2200 for the dual moonroof setup.

I should have my box back Friday, and I'm expecting my
tax return around the same time...so hopefully my springs
and wheels in a week or two.

 

hmm , not good, i'd rock the dual's tho

 

I guess that I shouln't have JUST put it into our demo xB. Crud.

But the panoramic is SOOOO effing cool, ya know?

 

i wonder what will happen with the people that have them installed

 

hmm this is too bad... that panoramic was on my list of things to get when I scrapped enough money together (like a few years from now lol). Ah well, this gives them time to come out with new stuffs (or maybe I should just go with some flip downs.. cheaper definately cheaper...)..

I wonder exactly what they mean by "buckling"...

 

he was telling me that some cases were to bad that webasto had to buy the xb back.

sux but if it was to happen to me i "hope" that it happens within its warranty.
i saw the dual moon roof and i like also. ..

on another note. my xb will be a one of kind limited edition with the panoramic moonroof, therefore making it go up in value. .. well a collectors edition kinda sorta..or like the hotlava and yellow xb only a few came like that.

thanks for the info lonelyraven

 

btw... it sucks in winter.. i had to use rain x to prevent ice from freezing on top. after rain x that seem to take care of it.. but i am concern that when my bass notes hit something will happen or if i get t-boned or whatever..its a nice mod ..definately love it ... but im very conscious about it all the time..so there is a plus and a downside to it.

 

this sucks big time ... i was about to get it installed in a week ... after some of my stock sales cleared


would you guys recommend trying to get this done .. maybe the place that was going to do it .. doesnt know about the xb issue and will install it anyways

or would you say .. dont risk it ?

whats a good alternative ?

 

Hold out till I get my dual Moon Roof this weekend. I got
a call telling me Friday afternoon for sure. Let me spend
some time with the dual setup and I'll tell you if I think it
was worth it. Honestly, I just did the research (with
Raul's help), found what I wanted and said "I want two of those"
The rest was really up to the installer to take measurements
and to approve the install.

If you go to a shop that "happens" to have the Panoramic
in stock, you might get them to install it. I honestly have
no idea how many were installed that were having problems,
so I can't exactly say if I thought it was worth it or not.
Believe me, I really thought about going ahead and doing it!

Here is some of the thought process behind my choosing the 3630 roof.
First off, Raul pointed it out to me on Webasto's web page. It was installed into
a Hummer. Rooting around their web page, I downloaded every PDF file and
looked at *EVERY* option they have. The 3630 is the LARGEST spoiler style
Webasto makes. I opeted for spoiler style (the kind of roof that slides up and OUT
of the car rather then into the headliner) because I wanted TWO of them. If I was
to get only one, I'd have gone for the 790 model which is the largest IN sliding roof.

Here are the links so you can see what I was debating:

Mini Cooper with 524 Panoramic
Panoramic is a 27 1/4"X18" Opening with 30"X27" Glass

Scion with 322L Spoiler Style (which is a standard)
322L Spoiler 26 3/4"X 111/2" Opening with 32 1/4"X17 3/4" Glass

I didn't like the stock option they were giving me, that's too small of an opening
for me to enjoy, and Scion was like "but we could do two!". It doesn't matter to me
how many they put in, if it's the size of a gas door! LOL

Then researching the 3630 some more, I found the link with the Honda Element
with TWO 3630, which is more along the lines I wanted!

Honda Element with TWO 3630 installed!
A single 3630 Spoiler Style is 32 3/4"X12" Opening with 39"X18 1/4" Glass Each!

Since they are so narrow depth wise (18" deep on top), less roof is cut out and
less chance of buckling. So I practically insisted on two of them, and it boiled down
to the installer measuring and giving his OK.

If I could only get *one* roof installed, This 790 Inbuilt would be IT
With an opening of 32 3/4"X13 1/2" it's the largest Webasto has that isn't the
Panoramic.

I think the dual 3630 the best alternative option if you don't mind that much hardware cut into
your roof....come to think of it, I just realized I probably added 60lbs to the TOP of
my box...hmmm, maybe not so bright...but I really wanted this!!

I'll post a review and some photos when I get it back later this week. Damn, I forgot
to take some Before photos!!

 

Oh, and I think that photo that Fujiz pointed out in another
thread is this *exact* setup I'm getting. Someone else
probably did the same research as I did and came to the
same conclusion as me.

 

i never got one in my xB because i never liked how the install looked on any of them. i saw a few from different places and they always looked like the roof was dented in a bit. and also because the xB has those lines on the back of roof they would have to remove some of the plastic to go around it and it always looked like ___ to me.

i like how the moonroof looks from the inside but i was never pleased with how it was on the outside.

 

i was thinking of gettng the one loney raven choosed..but when i secretly when into rabbits xb when he still had his in the dealer i fell in love and decided to get it. lonely i hope to see it on saturday.

i agree with toaster..the outside could have been done better. the inside - priceless.