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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 03:31 AM
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Got back today from a 3 day trip to Vegas. On the way up, got 29mpg keeping it under 70.
On the way back, did 80-90 the whole way, got 32. What's up with that?
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 04:06 AM
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power band

you made it easier for the engine to maintain that speed
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ajayaitch
Got back today from a 3 day trip to Vegas. On the way up, got 29mpg keeping it under 70.
On the way back, did 80-90 the whole way, got 32. What's up with that?
you were traveling down hill the whole way back
tail wind maybe?
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 05:30 AM
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or your math was off...aha jk
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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I'll go with tailwind and down hill
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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There are some good hills on the way back. The longer version of the story is I was passed by a G35 sedan doing 80ish outside Boulder City, NV , where I had just gotten gas, so I fell in behind, letting them run interference. I stopped in Kingman as I had to clean the windshield again, and fell in behind a BMW X5 doing mid to high 80's. Stayed behind them, sometimes far behind until Wickenburg when we (my wife and I) stopped for lunch. That's where I got gas again and tallied it up. I was in 3rd gear a lot. Suck that the AC cuts out at WOT too.
And, there's only about 1000 feet elevation change between Vegas and Phoenix.
Old Apr 2, 2011 | 04:33 AM
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The laws of physics bow to the awesomeness of your ride? More likely a short fuel fill that's going to bite you the next time you fill. 80-90 in third gear isn't possible, is it?
Old Apr 2, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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I can go from Salinas Utah to Vegas on a tank.....
Old Apr 2, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SentraSE-R
The laws of physics bow to the awesomeness of your ride? More likely a short fuel fill that's going to bite you the next time you fill. 80-90 in third gear isn't possible, is it?

I wouldnt wanna try 90 in 3rd gear in my B...no way
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 03:24 AM
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only if you want a ventilation hole in the engine block
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMJim
I can go from Salinas Utah to Vegas on a tank.....
Yahoo maps says that's 383 miles. My best tanks are something like 552, 554, and 621 miles.

Our MT xBs turn 4500 rpm @ 90 mph in 5th gear with our overall 3.53:1 gear ratio. 3rd gear is 5.65:1, which would have the engine turning 7200 rpm. Unfortunately for ajayaitch's credibility, our engines redline at 6500 rpm. If he took his engine to within a hair's width from destruction ;) at 6400 rpm in 3rd gear, he could get 80 mph out of it.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 03:13 PM
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^^ yea, but I was getting gas every 250 miles when I made the trip. and then I thought my gas gauge broke
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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You guys are harsh.
Fortunately, I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I'll throw a couple points out there anyway.
I've been driving this car for 4 years. I'd like to think I know it pretty well. My fuel gauge is sitting at half tank at 170 miles. It doesn't mean I have half a tank, that's just what it shows. This has been consistent for the last 45,000 miles. During this run, when we were coming into Wickenburg, the gauge was just under 1/2 at 190 miles. Today, I have 150 miles on the current tank, the one I got in Wickenburg, and the gauge is over half tank. I did not get a short fill. Yes, I know it's not accurate or scientific, but please, STFU.
SentraSE-R, I have absolutely no doubt that your math is correct. Too bad it doesn't apply to my car, since it's an automatic. With 195/60-15's, I'm only turning 5200 RPM's at 90mph in 3rd. This is assumng the sites I got the 3rd gear ratio of 1:1 and final drive of 4.15:1 is correct.
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Originally Posted by ajayaitch
I'm only turning 5200 RPM's at 90mph in 3rd. This is assumng the sites I got the 3rd gear ratio of 1:1 and final drive of 4.15:1 is correct.
The gearing is correct, the 5200 at 90, not so much...

I knew I had this laying around... see, at the 1320 mark on a drag strip I was bouncing off the rev limiter in 3rd... which, as the video will show you, is not 90MPH... In 4th that is plausible, but I no longer have the xB here to test that theory

http://www.streetfire.net/video/her-...e-in_69553.htm
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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You figure it out then. Personally, I don't see how simple math can be wrong.

I'm running 195/60-15's, 24.2" diameter
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

This is the site I used for the RPM calculation
http://www.apexgarage.com/tech/gear_ratios.shtml
Here's some more...
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/procrastination/rear.html
http://www.f-body.org/gears/
http://www.kabamus.com/garage/gears.html

So tell me, what RPM was I turning at 90MPH in 3rd?
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 11:39 PM
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Heres an idea... grab your camera and car keys. and go test your theory... because I dont know what you did wrong, but its wrong...

Also, if your gonna try to spread BS here on SL... we have a place for that, its called the tC owners lounge...
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 12:21 AM
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I was off by 500RPM, sue me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFqns2PAWzs

Old Apr 4, 2011 | 01:04 AM
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Since I questioned your gearing, assuming you had a MT, I agree your rpm figures are correct for ATs. It is possible to go 90 mph in 3rd gear with a 1G AT. Now prove you can get 29-32 mpg at those speeds ;).
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 07:14 AM
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Well, I will say, after watching the video a couple times (because the starting of the video with the car moving made me second guess myself) I will say bravo, as you have done something not a lot of people (with these cars) have done, and thats prove me wrong.

Although I blame it on my lack of knowledge of the auto transmission vehicles

My hat goes off to you sir...
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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Ditto. I'm not a slushbox fan, either.



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