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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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I added a bazooka last night and after tearing out all the 2 inch thick inserts, spare tire, plastic, etc, there is a huge trunk back there! Has anyone looked at moving the spare underneath?


Also, when I was running the power lead, I notice a plastic box just under where the spare tire is, with all kinds of wires and tubes, what is that thing?
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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it's probably the fuel pump
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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fuel pump is in the fuel tank.

i believe it was found out to be part of the emissions.
do a search for more info on that.

but yes i did remove all that stuff. then i got out the hammer and pounded the 'non-functional' tire well flat. made a real big trunk! then i filled it back up with stereo stuff.


ditch the spare and buy run-flats!
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Ive already had a flat and im about to go to low pros so I think I will keep my spare but it is a LOT of room!
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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the black box is your charcoal cannister. It can be moved. You also have the jack point at the rear of the bodywork to deal with and that is a more difficult proposition. You may be able to squeeze the tire into the space, but it will be a tight fit behind the rear axle crosspiece.

Toyota really screwed this up. bBs don't have a spare, so they used the "quick and dirty" approach to putting a spare inside the xB, including the kludge of putting the jack under the driver's seat. If they had put a bit more effort into it, they could easily have put the spare underneath the rear, opening up several more cubic feet of storage in the back of the car.

I dread ever having to use the spare if I am on the road with luggage in the back. The road wheel doesn't fit in the spare tire space. Using Toyota's Rube Goldberg net to hold the tire behind the seat leaves no space for any cargo that was originally there.

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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"I dread ever having to use the spare if I am on the road with luggage in the back. The road wheel doesn't fit in the spare tire space. Using Toyota's Rube Goldberg net to hold the tire behind the seat leaves no space for any cargo that was originally there."



Here's a thought. Carry a battery-powered saw. If you get a flat, use the saw to cut the tire off the wheel, since it will be trash by the time you can pull off the road. Stow the wheel, leave the tire behind. Well, it's a thought.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Move spare under XB?

Originally Posted by craigferriter
I added a bazooka last night and after tearing out all the 2 inch thick inserts, spare tire, plastic, etc, there is a huge trunk back there! Has anyone looked at moving the spare underneath?


Also, when I was running the power lead, I notice a plastic box just under where the spare tire is, with all kinds of wires and tubes, what is that thing?
Chris (autosound) has his spare mounted underneath. He had to because of his custom enclosure.

As George stated the charcoal cannister can be moved, but when you do move it, make sure the car is OFF. That is, if you decide to undo any of the fuel/vac lines.
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sorry about the hi jack but whats the RIP 5 speed about?
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDanger
sorry about the hi jack but whats the RIP 5 speed about?
I seem to recall a thread from the other day where he was talking about his box dying on the highway.
My guess is he blew a tranny.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDanger
sorry about the hi jack but whats the RIP 5 speed about?
I seem to recall a thread from the other day where he was talking about his box dying on the highway.
My guess is he blew a tranny.
Oh ok I found it...man that sucks and yea he blew it...damn...
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Originally Posted by craigferriter
I added a bazooka last night and after tearing out all the 2 inch thick inserts, spare tire, plastic, etc, there is a huge trunk back there! Has anyone looked at moving the spare underneath?


Also, when I was running the power lead, I notice a plastic box just under where the spare tire is, with all kinds of wires and tubes, what is that thing?
Chris (autosound) has his spare mounted underneath. He had to because of his custom enclosure.

As George stated the charcoal cannister can be moved, but when you do move it, make sure the car is OFF. That is, if you decide to undo any of the fuel/vac lines.
OOH! We need pictures!

The other disadvantage to moving the charcoal canister is that Scions seem to be susceptable to problems with the vent plumbing, throwing trouble codes if things aren't perfectly sealed. If you move the canister and later on have this sort of problem the dealer will blame your mod for the problem, perhaps with some justification.

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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by craigferriter
I added a bazooka last night and after tearing out all the 2 inch thick inserts, spare tire, plastic, etc, there is a huge trunk back there! Has anyone looked at moving the spare underneath?
YES to pulling all that foam out - there's LOTS more room then. And I'm looking at getting a roofrack, and locking the spare up there. Also, if you flip the spare over (so the wheel is a bowl instead of a dome) you get more room, and can buy short bolt to hold it down (I found a big wingnut looking thing in my garage from another car that fit perfect.) but under would be nice...
Old Feb 10, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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any one do this this and have pix?
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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It wouldn't be hard to revamp the trunk floor in such a way as to maximize space. Just take out all the foam and plastic, throw the spare in the large circular depression that's filled by that black plastic thing, and cover everything with MDF and carpet.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 03:17 AM
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i thought that box underneath was the fume pump -safety thingy to see if there are any fuel leaks(sounds like a California emmissions requirement) but any way I think the spare could still be held under there with some 1/4 inch steel straps connected to what looks like the hitch connectors
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:08 AM
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You could fit the spare under there but you would have to jack it up first to get it in and out. Or just carry Fix a Flat in a can. LOL
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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what do you guys think of having a spare 5th wheel on the rear. make it like the jeeps where it would open out ward so you can open the hatch up..

i think just having the right items and the right paint for the assembly and a tire cover with the scion logo.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Maybe a photoshopper could whip something up so we could visuallize what that would look like.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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My worst nightmare is taking out my spare... And then getting a flat.

I'd rather not have my xB look a jeep btw :-p

I think I'm going to have to take a look under there. it's somewhat a pain if I wanna store stuff in there because you gotta take the carpet off and undo the hinges on that thing. Damn toyota!
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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so lets say you 18"s on your ride. you would rather have sitting under the car (dirty, chipped) im thing more like a baby boxed caddy with my 18"s blinding everybody behind me.

this frame for the 5th wheel wont look hand made like it came from the backyard of somebodys uncles house...lol



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