My 327 Scion xB...
#42
I got it perfect.
Chassis - Get an Alston tube chassis made for it with motor plates (mid, front and rear) for a small block Chevrolet, coil over front suspension from Hotchkis, rear from the same but a 4-link settup.
Engine - This gets technical, but I know my motor stuff VERY well. Get your hands on a 400SBC BLOCK ONLY. Bore it .030 over. Order a 350SBC forged crankshaft from Eagle, as well as some forged 6'' rods and TRD forged 9.7:1 pistons (it all comes in a kit). This makes the total displacement of the engine 377ci (good, long power curve that exceeds the 7000rpm point). Slap on a set of Eagle Pro 1 220cc intaked aluminum heads. A Comp Cams High Energy cam with 294in/304ex duration and .515''in/.523ex lift. Edlebrock Victor Jr intake manifold. Holly 4150hp series 750 carburetor. Griffen 3 core aluminum radiator with 2 Be Cool 212 puller fans.
To top it all off. Order up a ProCharger D1-SC centrifugal supercharger. Set the boost at 8psi on street for pump gas and 15-20psi at the track for race fuel. This settup will get you at least 600hp on the street with peak power being around 7500-8000RPM and 700-800+hp at the track.
Driveline - Get a Hughes Performance 2 speed power glide transmission, heavy duty driveshaft, and cal up Currie Enterprises and order one of their Ford 9'' rear end with an Eaton posi unit, 4.11 Richmond gears, and 31 spline axles.
Other: Get a Scion XB... remove the body.... install on chassis.... make new firewall and floor using sheet metal. Cover with carpets.
With this settup you will get traction and probably be turning 9 second runs at the track in a Scion XB with an engine that doesn't stick out the hood.
Chassis - Get an Alston tube chassis made for it with motor plates (mid, front and rear) for a small block Chevrolet, coil over front suspension from Hotchkis, rear from the same but a 4-link settup.
Engine - This gets technical, but I know my motor stuff VERY well. Get your hands on a 400SBC BLOCK ONLY. Bore it .030 over. Order a 350SBC forged crankshaft from Eagle, as well as some forged 6'' rods and TRD forged 9.7:1 pistons (it all comes in a kit). This makes the total displacement of the engine 377ci (good, long power curve that exceeds the 7000rpm point). Slap on a set of Eagle Pro 1 220cc intaked aluminum heads. A Comp Cams High Energy cam with 294in/304ex duration and .515''in/.523ex lift. Edlebrock Victor Jr intake manifold. Holly 4150hp series 750 carburetor. Griffen 3 core aluminum radiator with 2 Be Cool 212 puller fans.
To top it all off. Order up a ProCharger D1-SC centrifugal supercharger. Set the boost at 8psi on street for pump gas and 15-20psi at the track for race fuel. This settup will get you at least 600hp on the street with peak power being around 7500-8000RPM and 700-800+hp at the track.
Driveline - Get a Hughes Performance 2 speed power glide transmission, heavy duty driveshaft, and cal up Currie Enterprises and order one of their Ford 9'' rear end with an Eaton posi unit, 4.11 Richmond gears, and 31 spline axles.
Other: Get a Scion XB... remove the body.... install on chassis.... make new firewall and floor using sheet metal. Cover with carpets.
With this settup you will get traction and probably be turning 9 second runs at the track in a Scion XB with an engine that doesn't stick out the hood.
#44
You could do what I said for somewhere around $20,000 before getting the Scion body.
Let's add.
$3,400 for the motor
$2,000 for tthe supercharger
$5,000 for the chassis
$2,100 for the rear
$1,000 for the transmission
$1,000 interior work, including the sheet metal and carpet work
$2,000 odd and ends that add up like a witch with a capital B
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Total: $16,500 + the cost of a Scion XB body.
Probably be a bit higher than that after everything is said and done.
Let's add.
$3,400 for the motor
$2,000 for tthe supercharger
$5,000 for the chassis
$2,100 for the rear
$1,000 for the transmission
$1,000 interior work, including the sheet metal and carpet work
$2,000 odd and ends that add up like a witch with a capital B
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Total: $16,500 + the cost of a Scion XB body.
Probably be a bit higher than that after everything is said and done.
#45
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But with something that light (2,500 lbs), a crate motor for much less would suffice. Forget the supercharger, it'd blow the tires off it. For the trans use an overdrive 5 spd and still be able to drive it on the street. Gear wise I'd choose about 3.55 depending on rear tire size. It'd prolly do 10's in the 1/4 and still get around 20 something mpg also.
If a salvage car could be found for cheap, I don't see how this couldn't be done for well under 15K
If a salvage car could be found for cheap, I don't see how this couldn't be done for well under 15K
#46
My dad had a 2,200lbs full on drag car that he bought with no motor and no trans. He put a stock 350 with a stock th350 transmission (3 speed auto) and ran 12s. So I don't think a crate motor would put you into the 10s or anywhere close.
Now if you know what you're doing you could pop in a stroked LS1 with a set of AFR 225 heads, GM Hot Cam, and other bolt on mods... pair that up with a 6 speed out of a 'vette and you'd be in the 10's more than likely (if you can shift and hook up).
It could be done for around $15k BEFORE the Scion body.. that's figuring you're doing all of the work.. fab work and all.
Now if you know what you're doing you could pop in a stroked LS1 with a set of AFR 225 heads, GM Hot Cam, and other bolt on mods... pair that up with a 6 speed out of a 'vette and you'd be in the 10's more than likely (if you can shift and hook up).
It could be done for around $15k BEFORE the Scion body.. that's figuring you're doing all of the work.. fab work and all.
#47
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Right a STOCK 350 w/turbo 350=12's. I said a 350 crate motor, the right cam and heads- not stock. Also having the 5 spd. heavy clutch and proper gearing 10's shouldn't be a problem. Also if the wrecked Scions price is right (cheap) that is what would keep the total cost down.
#58
I'd go more with a LS1 than a North Star. It's easier to find parts for the LS1... and there's just something about an engine that has a starter located inside of it (underneath the intake manifold on the front of the block) that turns me off.
#60
Well really when it comes down to it most T-buckets have custom made frames. Not all.. but most. You could probably get the measurements and everything and make one just as they make them for the T-buckets.