Yeah, I never have a problem with the car I'm in, it's the damn cars in front of me that's the problem. And I drive an auto...

It does sound like your needs have changed.

 

<<< Doing it. :twisted: :twisted:

 

Post pics when it's done

 

well good lucl with your decisions.

what was the idea of purchaseing the xB was it

the looks
the room
the comfort
fun to drive factor
price ---(this is what won me over :mrgreen
modify the F^&K out of it------(if the money was there)


can you fill us in a bit about your scion story?

 

Hmmmm..... well all I can say do you expect your XB to do over 100mph to out accelerate the SUV's doing 80mph?......here is my story I drive over 100 miles a day or about 2,500 miles/mo. in my XB 5spd. I drive a mix of heavy traffic and highway my other car is a 04 Volvo S60T. The box does ad well in all situations as the S60T and cost 1/2 the price and gets about 10 mpg more. What can you trade your XB for at any where near the cost that will out shine it? Mybe you need to step up to the Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

 

I also find i have no trouble merging into traffic, neither do i feel that the car has too little power.
But then i again I wouldnt be pulling in front of a car thats going 95 when i dont intend on going more then 70.
Now if some one is going to be going that fast in the slow lane, then the problem is not your car but the driver of the other car.
The slow lane is called the slow lane for a reason.
I have a five speed, and if i need to pass or merge, its easy with the drop of a gear i can pass who i want when i want.

 

My wife and I drive to work everyday together, 50 miles each way on various roads. From country roads to larger highways. She tends to drive in the morning and I'll drive home. I've been keeping a log of the mileage and we are averaging 33 MPG (auto). I'm hoping it will increase as the car breaks in (only 2000 miles on the Xb).

Neither of us have any problems merging, passing or accelerating on the highways and we average 60 MPH during the commute and go up to 75-80MPH on 195 and Rt. 18.

I am constantly passing other cars and driving like I do in my Silverado...just can't blow people off the line or blow their doors off passing them. But we've had no problems at all.

 

Yeah, I get an average of about 32-33 MPG in the city, as I work around DC, it's all low speed driving, but I tend to keep my revs high because otherwise, it wouldn't go anywhere.

I don't know anyone who would say that anything over 30 MPG is bad, since a vast majority of cars that are rated for 30 MPG by the EPA rarely see that figure. It's all how you drive, but unfortunately, if you drive an xB like a grandma, it will definately seem slow because it has no power until you're getting close to 4000 rpm...

My sister has a Civic Hybrid with a CVT that manages to get 44-45 MPG, but that is also a 20K car will less features and less room. Nonetheless, you should buy a car that suits you.

 

I have a stick also and I don't have any problem keeping up with traffic. I think the only time I had a problem was going from an almost stop on a steep freeway ramp.

What I was really amazed at is how it flew up the mountain grades! I was passing all kinds of vehicles, sometimes shifting down to 4th. Very happy with that.

I like manuals to begin with, but with the small engine I don't think I would ever choose an auto on this car.

Sean

 

I've noted no problem with the power of the xB. No, it doesn't win the Stoplight Grand Prix, but that isn't what I bought it for. It merges fine on the freeway and climbs any hill I point it at without slowing.

Now, keep in mind that my "other car" is a VW bus with 60HP and 3000+ pounds, so perhaps my driving perspective is different. If I had had a faster "previous" car I would have developed more aggressive techniques for driving and merging that require more performance than the xB can provide. As it is, my merging technique is more of the "can't we all get along" variety.

George

 

But try bring home a 32" color TV or a table or a couple of 2X4s in one of those!!
I use to drive 18 wheelers...talk about no performance on an on-ramp (under load).

Not saying that this is the vehicle for Texas (considering heat & size of vehicles) but when I put the CAI and headers on in last summer it did make a big difference in the freeway on-ramp performance on my xB. If I need to go from a dead stop I wind it out to the mid 5k RPMs in second and third. We have a few short ramps here on the I-70 were the average speed is 75-85mph between Frederick and Baltimore across ALL lanes.

 

My thoughts considering I live in the Dallas, Texas area also...

I don't own one...yet! However, when I was at the dealership during the insane Texas summer heat, I test drove both the auto & manual versions. I don't know if it was b/c both versions wasn't broken in yet but I could tell the manual version pulls noticeably harder. Not like a 20 hp difference but still noticeable if you drive both back to back.

Granted, I don't expect it to be a track fix/sporty vehicle like my weekend car (See sig.) but to me it seem fine driving on the highway (passing & merging) during the summer heat w/the a/c on. I've been doing alot of research & to me it fulfills my needs here in Texas:

1) Roomy so I can carry many supplies to/from work
2) Gets good mpg
3) Great price for a new vehicle
4) Toyota reliability (I average 20k-22k miles per year)
5) Mainly will be a school/work vehicle w/50% each city/highway driving

Good luck w/whatever you do!

 

It does take a little longer to cool down after sitting in the summer heat all day. But once it does its plenty cold for me.
A local dealer told me that the xB has a smaller compressor and that accounts for the delay. This seems true because my miles per gallon doesn't change much when I use the air.

 

I love the xB!! Plain and simple. I have driven stick sports cars since I could drive and well yes the the AutoB is no AutoX but I find it has more then enough go when you need it. No problems merging on the freeway, no problems passing, no problems cruising at around 80. it fits all my needs. But the funny thing is now that I am not driving a sports car any more I am actually enjoying the drive to and from work. Life has slowed down a little for me :D and thats a good thing.

Though with my past experience in the sports/autocross scene I did make some concious choices to make sure all that 108hp was put to good use and not wasted.

For example
1. I did not opt for the larger wheels as they have a direct impact on the accelleration capabilities of a vehicle. I will be getting some later for summer shows and advertising stints but for daily driving the stock 15 inch alloys are the best choice.

2. I did opt for the spoiler. As this is a huge box with an obscene amount of drag even a little bit of air being forced into that vacume at the back of the box is a good thing.

On a side note on the discussion about manual or automatic manuals will always feel as though they are "stronger" and in some cases they may in fact be. But the perception is usually due to the fact that with a manual you are a much more active driver. You also control the shift points. And most likely the percpetion in our cars is a valid one due to the parsitic loss involved with the torque converter on our automatics. However if you just mash that pedal on the right, the gerbils stand at attention and begin to go on their war march just fine. I have had 0 performance problems from my box when I needed it. I have found it to be quite the pleasant car to live with so far.

Also when it comes to traffic just do your thing. The car will easily accelerate up to the legal speed limit in most states (montana excluded) and for those who are doing 80 in a 55 they can just sit back relax and enjoy the view of my big old white ___ in front of them And maybe they too will realise life is to short to always be in such a hurry.


Peace

 

Simply do not play their game. Allow those who are in a big hurry in the first lane on the interstate/highway to go ahead before you merge in. Forget about the cars behind you on the entrance ramp, tailgating you. I, too drive 18-wheeler, and in most jurisdictions the burden IS on the entering traffic to adjust THEIR OWN speed to enter.
Not complicated at all...

 

Im with you man. I have had no problems at all merging into traffic. Yes the car is slow but I don't think its any slower than a HUMMER or those other big SUVs that weigh 4000lbs+
The only thing I am unhappy about is the gas mileage I've been getting. The first two times I filled up I was getting 29/30mpg. The last two times I have been getting 27mpg. Its kinda sad I only get 2mpg more in the XB than my 11 second mr2. = (

 

I don't know about you, but when I bought an XB for 15,500 I expected 500 horsepower, 60+ miles per gallon, quality of a mercedes, resale of a BMW and prestige of a Jaguar...Needless to say I am very disappointed...In essence, you get what you pay for and I believe XB owners have gotten much more than they paid for...go buy a 53K Excursion with a V10...plenty of power but you will complain about gas mileage and parking situations (I own both...each serves its independent purpose well)

 

I have no problem murging or passing,Intake and header and heavy foot.I also drive 60 miles daily for a commute . I also drive from the Bay area to LA atleast once a month and 80-85 mph all the way and have no problem,I have a five speed so maybe that helps.

 

I have to disagree wit all, the XB is great, and runs like a champ, no problems merging or any thing, it sgot all the power you need with the right bolt ons, Clutch, Intake, and exhaust really help, and there are several supercharger and turbo kits available on the market.

 

Good one!