Now I need better gas mileage!
I can't complain, I get about 30-32mpg as it is, but I've just started delivering pizzas in the box and I want make the most out of it.
What are some good parts to get and maintenance to ensure better mpg than I'm getting now?
What are some good parts to get and maintenance to ensure better mpg than I'm getting now?
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Please get a hoopty for the pizza gig and save the xB for the fun stuff. Why waste a perfectly good box by wearing it out doing manual labor. Pick up a 96 Sentra like I did for a grand and drive the hell out of it. Then come home and enjoy the box.
No offense, but delivering pizzas isn't exactly a career job. I'd think if someone had extra money to buy, insure and maintain a dedicated hoopty delivery car, they wouldn't be delivering pizzas?
So, what the others said. Just maintain your xB with regular oil changes and make sure you have the correct tire pressure. If you have a manual, your driving style will make a big difference. A Scangauge would show you real time what mileage you're getting so you could adjust. Synthetic may get you slightly better mileage but not enough to offset the higher cost. 5w-20 is supposed to be the new oil weight the Toyota dealers use and get slightly better mileage than the original 5w-30 spec. Maybe de snorkling the stock airbox would get you slightly better mileage and wouldn't cost anything. A K&N drop in might get you better mileage but it's debatable. Same thing for iridium plugs.
So, what the others said. Just maintain your xB with regular oil changes and make sure you have the correct tire pressure. If you have a manual, your driving style will make a big difference. A Scangauge would show you real time what mileage you're getting so you could adjust. Synthetic may get you slightly better mileage but not enough to offset the higher cost. 5w-20 is supposed to be the new oil weight the Toyota dealers use and get slightly better mileage than the original 5w-30 spec. Maybe de snorkling the stock airbox would get you slightly better mileage and wouldn't cost anything. A K&N drop in might get you better mileage but it's debatable. Same thing for iridium plugs.
Originally Posted by swartzautoman
cost in nutral as much as posible
Who says that saves gas? what scientific data do you have that backs that up? You burn just as much gas decelerating as you do in neutral. The fuel injector pulse width is the same, delivering just enough fuel to keep the engine running, which is not a whole lot.
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Sorry stew32 but when I was still in my teens working minimum wage jobs I had a crap car for winter and a nice one for the rest of the time. Never delivered pizzas but prolly could have made better money if I did. I'm sure others got my point about not wasting an xB doing pizza delivery. I love mine too much to put it through that torment.
Your best way to save gas is in your driving habits. Don't do jackrabbit starts, plan ahead to coast to stop signs/lights instead of accelerating and then braking hard. Any mods that might help with gas mileage only pay off slowly over time after requiring an initial investment.
Scorpius01 wrote:
Who says that saves gas? what scientific data do you have that backs that up? You burn just as much gas decelerating as you do in neutral. The fuel injector pulse width is the same, delivering just enough fuel to keep the engine running, which is not a whole lot.
WTF!
are you smokin crack!
i coast in nutral for more then a mile in several spots around town.
what "scientific data" do you need to understand that "any" engine burns less fuel at idle then at a higher RPM.
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"800 RPMs will always burn less fuel then 3000 RPMs"
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don't know who said it but its been true as long as interal combustion engines have been around.
im being sarcastic by the way, just incase you couldn't tell
Who says that saves gas? what scientific data do you have that backs that up? You burn just as much gas decelerating as you do in neutral. The fuel injector pulse width is the same, delivering just enough fuel to keep the engine running, which is not a whole lot.
WTF!
are you smokin crack!
i coast in nutral for more then a mile in several spots around town.
what "scientific data" do you need to understand that "any" engine burns less fuel at idle then at a higher RPM.
QUOTE
"800 RPMs will always burn less fuel then 3000 RPMs"
END QUOTE
don't know who said it but its been true as long as interal combustion engines have been around.
im being sarcastic by the way, just incase you couldn't tell
Originally Posted by bB2NER
Sorry stew32 but when I was still in my teens working minimum wage jobs I had a crap car for winter and a nice one for the rest of the time. Never delivered pizzas but prolly could have made better money if I did. I'm sure others got my point about not wasting an xB doing pizza delivery. I love mine too much to put it through that torment.
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^^^You'll see what I mean after the first 6 months. A ding here and a scratch there. The potential damage your box faces doing pizza delivery is enormous. You won't notice the small things at first but over time your box will get trashed. Not to mention being on the road usually at night and especially fri and sat night when all the drunks are out in force.
Don't take my word for it. Check out pizza places and see what other delivery people drive. I always see them in crapped out beaters. It very rare to see a decent vehicle delivering pizza unless it's a company vehicle.
Don't take my word for it. Check out pizza places and see what other delivery people drive. I always see them in crapped out beaters. It very rare to see a decent vehicle delivering pizza unless it's a company vehicle.
Originally Posted by bB2NER
Don't take my word for it. Check out pizza places and see what other delivery people drive. I always see them in crapped out beaters. It very rare to see a decent vehicle delivering pizza unless it's a company vehicle.
Originally Posted by bB2NER
^^^You'll see what I mean after the first 6 months. A ding here and a scratch there. The potential damage your box faces doing pizza delivery is enormous. You won't notice the small things at first but over time your box will get trashed. Not to mention being on the road usually at night and especially fri and sat night when all the drunks are out in force.
Don't take my word for it. Check out pizza places and see what other delivery people drive. I always see them in crapped out beaters. It very rare to see a decent vehicle delivering pizza unless it's a company vehicle.
Don't take my word for it. Check out pizza places and see what other delivery people drive. I always see them in crapped out beaters. It very rare to see a decent vehicle delivering pizza unless it's a company vehicle.
And are you saying that you just sit at home on Friday and Saturday nights in fear of drunk drivers?
......on a lighter note, has anyone noticed that the majority of pizza guys drive around in rice-mobiles? Loud escorts and focus' and stuff...
oh yea
.... The topic.
Ok here goes. Make sure your engine bay is clean and free of nasty stuff... replace corroding wires... Don't forget to watch the oil since ur cars gonna be going thru heavy use.... oh wait... they don't help with gas? Or do pay your own gas?
[edit] I think I repeated everything already said... nvm then, semi-irrelevant post.
oh yea
Ok here goes. Make sure your engine bay is clean and free of nasty stuff... replace corroding wires... Don't forget to watch the oil since ur cars gonna be going thru heavy use.... oh wait... they don't help with gas? Or do pay your own gas?
[edit] I think I repeated everything already said... nvm then, semi-irrelevant post.
Originally Posted by swartzautoman
Scorpius01 wrote:
Who says that saves gas? what scientific data do you have that backs that up? You burn just as much gas decelerating as you do in neutral. The fuel injector pulse width is the same, delivering just enough fuel to keep the engine running, which is not a whole lot.
WTF!
are you smokin crack!
i coast in nutral for more then a mile in several spots around town.
what "scientific data" do you need to understand that "any" engine burns less fuel at idle then at a higher RPM.
QUOTE
"800 RPMs will always burn less fuel then 3000 RPMs"
END QUOTE
don't know who said it but its been true as long as interal combustion engines have been around.
im being sarcastic by the way, just incase you couldn't tell
Who says that saves gas? what scientific data do you have that backs that up? You burn just as much gas decelerating as you do in neutral. The fuel injector pulse width is the same, delivering just enough fuel to keep the engine running, which is not a whole lot.
WTF!
are you smokin crack!
i coast in nutral for more then a mile in several spots around town.
what "scientific data" do you need to understand that "any" engine burns less fuel at idle then at a higher RPM.
QUOTE
"800 RPMs will always burn less fuel then 3000 RPMs"
END QUOTE
don't know who said it but its been true as long as interal combustion engines have been around.
im being sarcastic by the way, just incase you couldn't tell
What does that mean, this....sarcasm you speak of?
injectors almost shut off, in some cases they shut off altogether when decelerating from moderate to high engine speed (RPM), this fuel strategy has been used in engine control for a while now. 3000 rpm under different loads mean the engine is being fueled differently, under WOT full load (no vacuum), the engine is getting a lot of fuel, increased injector pulse duration, under 3000 deceleration (alot of engine of engine vacuum) little to no fuel is being injected into the motor, decreased injector pulse duration. Why is this? because it reduces emissions.
you do not know the science behind any type of fuel or engine management or how an internal combustion engine is fueled under what load and condition. Yes it is different, yes it means that putting it into neutral will have no effect on fuel economy, and all you are doing is putting yourself and others at risk.
Check your facts, there is nothing worse than spreading misinformation.
Originally Posted by Scorpius01
Check your facts, there is nothing worse than spreading misinformation. 
One data point, anyway.
Originally Posted by stew32
No offense, but delivering pizzas isn't exactly a career job. I'd think if someone had extra money to buy, insure and maintain a dedicated hoopty delivery car, they wouldn't be delivering pizzas?
p.s. next time i order a pizza- I'll make sure to tip the delivery guy double to make up for your existence.
Originally Posted by Bossman
Originally Posted by stew32
No offense, but delivering pizzas isn't exactly a career job. I'd think if someone had extra money to buy, insure and maintain a dedicated hoopty delivery car, they wouldn't be delivering pizzas?
p.s. next time i order a pizza- I'll make sure to tip the delivery guy double to make up for your existence.



