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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Default sectioning the xB

After posting my HHR posts i hear alot of
talk about the HHR
Can the xB be sectioned and still look good
i just what to know
it would make the car lighter
and make it more arodimamic
i know the HHR can even if it is a little bloated

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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Default ....NO CLUE....

No clue as to what you are referring to.... Do you mean SECTIONING?... Cutting the car into peices and putting them back in a differant order? Or is setioning something I do not know about yet? Why? What? HUH? 2450 lbs. is not light enough?
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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.... Do you mean SECTIONING?... Cutting the car into peices and putting them back in a differant order?
That's already been tried. Remember the Aztec?
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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i know what it means
and shutup
anycar can never be to light
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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i know what it means
and shutup
anycar can never be to light
Seriously. Could you explane it to us who are not of the wrench-head mentality (I mean that affectionately and with sincere reverence to those of you who are)

And the AZTEC joke was even if I don't understand the original question.
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Yes this section term is odd. You mean something like easy to remove body pannels? Kind of like being able to put in fenders w/built in flares on both front & back? As it stands right now, there is a ok amount of body parts that can be removed.
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SECTIONING
is what hotrodders did to 54 chevys and others cars

it is when a section of the body if cut out of the car
and the car is put back togher making it rider lower
and possibly make the car lighter
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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I see. Then may I ask why? I can see making a xB wider, but this would just add weight seeing how thin the metal is already. As for lower, not much can be done with the rear suspension set up, nor the front. These things dont run A arm style parts. With a air bag set, I think you can still lay it on the ground.
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by notintheface
SECTIONING
is what hotrodders did to 54 chevys and others cars

it is when a section of the body if cut out of the car
and the car is put back togher making it rider lower
and possibly make the car lighter
Kind of like chopping the room/windows?
Making that 'section' of the less valumunous?
That is; say 10" tall side windows vs what we currently have?
One of you guys with the photo-shop talent get to work.

When I was getting my xB serviced this morning I wandered into the showroom. The mag/flier for the Scions has a 'Limo' xB in it
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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my god! it a big, slow golf cart - leave it alone! what? you gonna drag it? street racer? fast and furious? christ.
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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I still think the definition of sectioning has eluded this forum.

Sectioning is taking a section out of the middle of the car, lengthwise, and welding the top and bottom back together. Not making the car lower to the ground but the body will be shorter. Like it was mentioned above, the 5 Axis Xb was in a sense sectioned when they lowered the top. Sectioning normally refers to the body though.
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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The 5axis was totally different. That was a chop top. You can have chopped and channeled both.

Sectioning refers to what Chadfo wrote though pretty much.



notintheface, do you know why all the 50s guys did it?

To make it lighter. They had REAL metal, not this flimsy plate stuff we have. If you want your car lower just do springs or coilovers or bags or something. Sectioning will give you such a headache trying to figure it out. The fronts and rears are like Chucksu said so theres not much potential.

But since you know what it is and seem to be an expert notintheface, why dont you do it and tell us what its like.
I'd be interested to see what you come up with.

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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chadfo
Sectioning is taking a section out of the middle of the car, lengthwise, and welding the top and bottom back together. Not making the car lower to the ground but the body will be shorter. Like it was mentioned above, the 5 Axis Xb was in a sense sectioned when they lowered the top. Sectioning normally refers to the body though.
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:12 AM
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wow i am losing brain cells...

chop top: shortining roof pillars to bring roof lower to the body

chaneling: to remove sectionsof steel from the body horizontally "does not lower the car" but gives the appearance of the car being lower because the roof is lower!

body drop: cutting the floor and lowering the body rewelding the floor "floor stays in the same spot, body is lowered"

stock floor body drop: "frame vehicles" sections of the frame that are lower than the body are removed and reinforced! that is for some full size trucks, others and minis, can be done but front clip wull get z'd "not getting into that right now" but the easiest for stock floor body drop would be to make a new frame "tubular" [show vehicle] not practical for daily driver, usually 2x4 sideways and reinforced works well.....


sorry for the spelling and rambling on!
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See I always understood channeling and what minitruckers call a traditional body drop is about the same. Basically building a raised channel in the floor of the vehicle for the frame...there for lowering the body on the frame.

I thought to section a car you cut from like headlight to taillight. remove a certain about of body then set the top back on it, basically a chopped top for the body. Therefore removeing a section of the body.
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Originally Posted by Spider13
See I always understood channeling and what minitruckers call a traditional body drop is about the same. Basically building a raised channel in the floor of the vehicle for the frame...there for lowering the body on the frame.

I thought to section a car you cut from like headlight to taillight. remove a certain about of body then set the top back on it, basically a chopped top for the body. Therefore removeing a section of the body.
basically it depends who you talk to, east coast/ west coast hotrodder/minitrucker potato pot.....you get the point... but yah i know olot of hotrodders and what i wrote is our terminology...sp?
Old Aug 21, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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spider13 you are right. it would be practically impossible to sections a unibody car. let alone do it and have it still be even remotely structurally sound.

and an hhr can be body dropped. or so i had read. we cannot.
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Originally Posted by bruceb
Originally Posted by Spider13
See I always understood channeling and what minitruckers call a traditional body drop is about the same. Basically building a raised channel in the floor of the vehicle for the frame...there for lowering the body on the frame.

I thought to section a car you cut from like headlight to taillight. remove a certain about of body then set the top back on it, basically a chopped top for the body. Therefore removeing a section of the body.
basically it depends who you talk to, east coast/ west coast hotrodder/minitrucker potato pot.....you get the point... but yah i know olot of hotrodders and what i wrote is our terminology...sp?
OG North East style was chop, channel, nose.deck and french.....



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