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Old 02-18-2005, 04:23 PM
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Tamago stated that he removed his rear seats, weighed them out, and they came out to be 75 lb's.
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I don't see how the rear seats come out to 75lbs. Not saying anyone is wrong, but like i said...the integra weighed only 19lbs. Unless the rear seats are most of the weight in the rear... I haven't taken my rear seats out with the xb, and won't.. So, if they said 75lbs.. I guess...
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Am I missing something here? Why would you want to strip an xA down like that? I understand less weight = better performace. But xAs are NOT performance cars. Are you racing them in competitions or something? What big advantage is there to all of this? I mean, lets say you remove the passanger seat, rear seats, spare tire, stereo and you get a lighter battery. You may have lightend the car by what, 100 to 160lbs? If I have a passanger with me who's 130 lbs, I don't even notice a difference in performance. I'm sure there is a difference, but it's very slight. To gain that very small difference, I don't see how it's worth it to you to strip your car down to an ugly, one-person transport shell. It's still an xA, so it's still slow.
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Old 02-18-2005, 05:03 PM
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power to weight. its been discussed in the forums before, but thats the whole point. personally, i wouldn't go that far with my xb. im happy just doing some CF stuff and losing a few pounds here and there. however, every pound counts. 100lbs could decide a win or lose if the race is that close.
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Old 02-18-2005, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
I don't see how the rear seats come out to 75lbs. Not saying anyone is wrong, but like i said...the integra weighed only 19lbs. Unless the rear seats are most of the weight in the rear... I haven't taken my rear seats out with the xb, and won't.. So, if they said 75lbs.. I guess...
i will re-weigh everything tonight and advise. i may have given you all bad info. i will weigh each piece.

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Old 02-18-2005, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
Am I missing something here? Why would you want to strip an xA down like that? I understand less weight = better performace.
you just answered your own question.

But xAs are NOT performance cars. Are you racing them in competitions or something?
yes.. we are..
What big advantage is there to all of this? I mean, lets say you remove the passanger seat, rear seats, spare tire, stereo and you get a lighter battery. You may have lightend the car by what, 100 to 160lbs?
that 100+ pounds makes a huge difference. also remember, cornerability increases when you drop the CG, and by removing ANY WEIGHT above the car's CG, you are LOWERING the car's CG.
If I have a passanger with me who's 130 lbs, I don't even notice a difference in performance. I'm sure there is a difference, but it's very slight. To gain that very small difference, I don't see how it's worth it to you to strip your car down to an ugly, one-person transport shell. It's still an xA, so it's still slow.
you are thinking straight-line performance here
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Old 02-18-2005, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tamago
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Are you racing them in competitions or something?
yes.. we are..
Oh, okay. In that case it makes peferct sense. I thought people were doing this to their daily driver just so it would be a tiny bit faster in the occasional traffic light race against some kid in a civic. If you are seriously racing then yeah, I get it.
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the xA has potential to be serious contender in the SCCA, if classed right.
As for lightweight battry's (i know it's battery) check out this website.
http://www.performancedistributors.com/batteries.htm
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http://www.scca-susq.com/

your local SCCA club!
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Old 02-18-2005, 06:21 PM
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i will re-weigh everything tonight and advise. i may have given you all bad info. i will weigh each piece.

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I will be interested in seeing what number you come up with. I doubt 75lbs, but if this is true.. I might consider changing out the rear seats for lighter seats.

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Old 02-18-2005, 06:32 PM
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i will include seatbelts and all bracketry in this measurement, as they are all out of my car replaced by 1 14lb momo smack in the middle, and about 2 lbs of aluminum bracketry
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
I don't see how the rear seats come out to 75lbs. Not saying anyone is wrong, but like i said...the integra weighed only 19lbs. Unless the rear seats are most of the weight in the rear... I haven't taken my rear seats out with the xb, and won't.. So, if they said 75lbs.. I guess...
yeah my rsx's rears seats only weight in at 25lbs. i know the xb's rear seats is larger than the XAs but 75lbs is just too crazy........
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:50 AM
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official numbers are in.

large half of seat: 27 lbs
small half of seat 14 lbs
head rests: 1lb total
seatbelts 1lb total
seat bottom 9lbs

that's 52 lbs i was off by a few lbs lol

seat bracket bar 8lbs

so about 60 lbs for back seat assy.

now, here's some more
storage cover 4lbs
trunk floor 7lbs
tools (jack/wrenches) 13 lbs
donut 24lbs
tool holder 3lbs..

the lbs add up
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Old 02-19-2005, 05:19 AM
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[/quote] Oh, okay. In that case it makes peferct sense. I thought people were doing this to their daily driver just so it would be a tiny bit faster in the occasional traffic light race against some kid in a civic. If you are seriously racing then yeah, I get it.[/quote]

If that were the case, I would agree with you.

My xA is no drag car. It's quite slow in a straight line.

However, I as well as Tamago and quite a few others autocross our xA's. That 160 pounds gone will do plenty for a car in autocross

But, to answer your question, removing 160 pounds would not do much for any car as far as 0-60 or 1/4 mile, although it would help slightly.

The real advantage would be in the corners, and braking.
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