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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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hey all....well i was just approved on a 05 xb 5 speed...and was just wondering what they run in the 1/4 mile or the 1/8th mile ....if anyone has ran them....stock or modded dont matter.......thanks for the info ahead of time
Old Dec 5, 2004 | 07:32 AM
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A speed demon the box is not. You are a little better off with the 5spd. Don't look to burn the track with it though. What alot of people don't understand is that these were built for commuter (in town) driving, nor for haul'h arss. You can make it fit your personality but if part of your personality is going fast you might want to consider a Tc.
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You mean "xb how slow??????".. lol. Yeah, they run like.. well.. from what I can tell about driving it it seems like it would run 18's.
Old Dec 5, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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xBling Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:32 am Post subject:

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A speed demon the box is not. You are a little better off with the 5spd. Don't look to burn the track with it though. What alot of people don't understand is that these were built for commuter (in town) driving, nor for haul'h arss. You can make it fit your personality but if part of your personality is going fast you might want to consider a Tc.
I'm really getting sick of replies like this for 2 reasons, 1. you didn't reply to his question, you just threw your 2 cents worth about the car, 2. anything can be made faster, it just depends on what you are willing to do to it.

On point 1, it's annoying to constantly see posts where someone just throws in a comment that's not asked for. Granted these forums are for people to share and voice their opinion but 05whitexb didn't ask for anyone's opinion was about how fast the car is. He specifically asked for track speeds. These boards would be so much better if people would respect other's request for information and reply to that instead of just throwing opinions out there.

That brings me to point 2, was the Civic designed to "haul'h arss"? No, but they sure do. I was watching a show a couple of weeks ago with a Civic that had an 1800cc engine that was putting out 1000 HP and it was in the street class. That's only 300ccs more than our little engines. It's all in what you do to it and how much you're willing to spend. I don't think all Toyota engine's have been explored for their full potential. Probably because they don't make many cars that the younger racing crowd wants to tinker with. Now they have 3, maybe through research, testing, and the willingness to try the power will be brought out of these.
Old Dec 5, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Both lanes are xb's. Both had magnaflow exhausts. The fast one had a PE super charger. Other wise they were pretty close to the same. The slow one on 18's, fast one on 19's w/ cf hood, if that makes much difference at all. Nothing was done to either to race prep, street air pressue and such on the tires. These are 1/8 miles times too if you couldn't figure it out.

Old Dec 5, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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To answer the question originally asked I have only seen ¼ times around the high 17’s low 18’s.

But against others opinion I will throw my own opinion into to this thread. I just had a newborn, so my wife and I got rid of our WRX which was modded, for a 05 XB. I didn't buy the XB because “someday I will swap it so it can be a track queen". I bought it because it was practical while still not leaving my youth.

With that being said I have only had a XB for about a week. I will tell you everybody and there momma revs at me or tries to instigate a street race. I constantly think to myself “Does this idiot really think I believe my box can outrun his Tiburon, cooper s, Si etc ?" but with these post with people trying to race their box it becomes more apparent to me why this occurrence continues to happen. I desperately wish when I drive my DSM people would pick on me like that. :?

Yes you can make anything fast with the right amount of money but there are other vehicles out there that are much faster for 14,195 or even less. Example 3.5k civic, 3k motor swap, 2k turbo kit and with proper tuning and care can be just as reliable. To each his own, you are your only judge not everyone else.
Old Dec 5, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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You can't make it fast in a straight line. Sorry. You can, however, make it the fun kind of fast: fast around corners.
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LuxNova
You can't make it fast in a straight line. Sorry. You can, however, make it the fun kind of fast: fast around corners.
what makes you think that? they have friggin axle beam rear suspension? only the crappiest rear suspension ever made!. but it's still small enuff to be decent around turns. on to answer a post..
i'd say a stocker is like 17.9 or so. with mods you can go to about 16.5 with bolt ons. with turbo or high psi s/c you could get like 14.5 at best maybe 14.0 . if u did a 2zz swap probably like 13.9. but all of this is with weight reduction , sticky tires and no god damned 18's or 19's those slow you down. especially since their tires are so damn thin u lose traction as well as a heavy ___ wheel. so yeah do what ya do my plan within the next year or two is airbag's , and a 2zz swap. i'd say i could get into the 14's and then i'd be happy. people buy these cars because theyre cheap , awesome looking , and brand new whethere theyre slow or not people will make them become their own. and my box is destined to be bagged , motor swapped , and sittin on some sick 17's with a conservative audio system. i'm partially there. but in the end a box is about 16.5-18.0 anywhere from stock to most bolt ons. anything faster requires a whole lot more
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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Dont you mean how slow is the xB?
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
Originally Posted by LuxNova
You can't make it fast in a straight line. Sorry. You can, however, make it the fun kind of fast: fast around corners.
what makes you think that? they have friggin axle beam rear suspension? only the crappiest rear suspension ever made!. but it's still small enuff to be decent around turns.
I think you meant to say it has a torsion beam rear suspension. Just for the record, a solid rear axle with leaf springs is technically the "crappiest rear suspension ever" and there are still more than a few cars on the road with that setup that will outhandle stock Hondas with their precious double-wishbone rear.

But we were talking about torsion beam rears.....now, guess what else has a torsion beam rear axle:



Mac struts and double-wishbones are more sophisticated to be sure, but don't make assumptions. A well tuned torsion-beam rear works just fine as you can see above.

Just for the record, I'd prefer a double-wishbone or at least struts myself too. While you can tune this type of suspension well enough, those more sophisitcated suspensions do a better job of maintaining your track through a series of quick turns and give passengers a less busy ride.

The torsion beam axle made sense in this case though and I understand why Toyota used it here. It's not a performance car and people arent expecting Lexus-like poise over irregular road surfaces. Torsion beam is very compact, which has a lot to do with all the room in the back of the xB. A double-wishbone or mac struts would raise the floor in the rear and eat up cargo room. Torsion beam is very inexpensive too, which helps keep the price down. It wouldn't be appropriate for a modern sports car, but it's more than adequate in this application IMO.
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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thanks for all the replys.......i was just wondering ...because i plan on doing rota slipstreams wheels 16.....carbon hood ...carbon wing...and a turbo kit and slammed......on a white xb...that is my plan...i have a 2000 vw gti vr6 im trading in on the xb.....and i run 14.2 all motor ...so if i can get it about as fast as my vw and look as cool as it does i will be happy....thanks again for the info...
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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The only way you are going to get it as fast as the VW is to figure out how to put the VW motor in it. If you put a few grand into it, you should only get beat by Focus's by about 10 lengths. But if you come across a 1982 escort with over 250K miles you might give it an honest run. Race cars these will never be. About when you think it's a race car, go to the track and embarrass yourself.

Torsion bar rear suspension? Like Dr. Ferdinand Porsche develped for the VW beetle? yeah, VW's and Porsches had them, Scions have coil springs. A torsion bar acts as the spring. You don't use both. (well not on the same end of the car anyway)
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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well i dont plan on racing it i just want the turbo for fun.....i have saved 4k for when i get a new car so ill buy the turbo while i break in the xb then at 3k miles i will put it on for a little more vroom.......dont expect to be fast...i had a 90 civic si...with turbo and a 95 ex motor swap before...and the car was only 2200 pounds...and i made 150whp...it was alright but not a neck snapper..like my ls1 camero...i just want to get good gas mileage....and have a little fun too....
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with a decently tuned 8psi turbo you'll be lookin at mid to high 14's just keep the car lightweight and lovin that yer goin wit slipstreams. don't get discouraged. people are comparing apples to oranges. they can be fast but like you've posted will cost near to 4k to do so which most people can't fathom and since 1000 dollars wont make it fast it's a slow car.
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
with a decently tuned 8psi turbo you'll be lookin at mid to high 14's just keep the car lightweight and lovin that yer goin wit slipstreams. don't get discouraged. people are comparing apples to oranges. they can be fast but like you've posted will cost near to 4k to do so which most people can't fathom and since 1000 dollars wont make it fast it's a slow car.

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Originally Posted by Spider13
Both lanes are xb's. Both had magnaflow exhausts. The fast one had a PE super charger. Other wise they were pretty close to the same. The slow one on 18's, fast one on 19's w/ cf hood, if that makes much difference at all. Nothing was done to either to race prep, street air pressue and such on the tires. These are 1/8 miles times too if you couldn't figure it out.

those reaction times need some work... :?

I think the xB is pretty quick when you're moving. rolling on the power in 2nd and 3rd gear, the car does get up and go. it just isn't too fast from a stand-still..
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Now, I am not claiming my xB is fast it is not, but after adding a exhaust and intake I notice a huge difference. My purpose for this car is all audio, and show but no go. If I wanted the go I sure wouldn't have traded my VW GTI 1.8T in. That car was fast. I think I lost to a 350Z once.
My xB with just the exhaust and intake has outrun a couple cars here and there. I know they were trying to race because they were being asses about it. The only reason why I raced it in the first place.
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snot nose kids wont chalenge a car on their level but their no knowledge of anything automotive astounds me even if you live under a rock and read any car mag every 6 months
there is no excuse to know that a xb/xa are not race cars
they are show cars and practical cars i had to drive my brothers 98 gsr integra for 2 weeks one time it had enuff crap on it to instigate a street race but no takers i go back to driveing my box every idiot with there red hat on backwards listening to limp biscut wants a race (no offence to folks with red hats or who listen to lb i was just painting a picture)
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Ok I know my RT was alittle slow. But I forgot to turn off the goofy traction control. It kills the on take off. I am also use to dragging a Dakota R/T with a 360 in it. Big difference from a 5.9 to a 1.4 xB. My best at the 1/8 track was a 10.62. I am getting a header next week. That will take me from 7psi of boost to 11. May go back to a stock exhaust too. The hp gain is probably only across a small 500rom range.

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very nice! proper raceing with proper results



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