xB motor swaps?

Does anyone know if there are any motors that would swap relatively easily into an xB?

I love the box. I want the box... but I really can't drive it at that power level, and I don't know if $4k for a 50hp turbo is going to make me feel any better about it. A decent 2.2-2.5 liter I4 would probablt be decent motivation. Anyne know where I can find more info?

Thanks,

-Justin

 

Sorry if I wasn't clear - I'm not looking to make a 'fast' xB.

But, this thing runs 0-60 in over 10 seconds with one occupant, and I would want this thing to make an occassional weekend road trip or maybe to carry some stuff back from Home Depot.

Add a few hundred pounds of passengers and gear to it and I will bet that the uphill sections of the Mass Pike on the way to LimeRock are very unpleasant. If I couldn't do this with the xB, there's really no reason for me to go with it.

And there are a couple that scoot around here with exhausts. They seem to add noise disproportionately to power (unfortunately)... and those are the TRD and Greddy exhausts. I don't think I want to hear the sounds that come out when the riceboys get their Midas Specials bolted up!

-Justin

 

You can swap in a 4efte starlet engine very easily for $2500 which includes the engine and install. It is a strong internal engine which holds 20psi so hitti8ng the 200hp mark is VERY easy at 16psi. I have seen a few echo's with it and it is great unless you plan on showing the car, then the engine looks small, trashed, and outta place.

Also the celica gt/gts engine will go in if you've got 4k lying around. But then your not hitting the 200hp mark but that would look AMAZING

 

I was just bs'ing on the 200hp. I think I'd be more concerned with a decent amount of torque through a nice portion of the rev band.

Since the xB is technically classed a truck, you probably have a lot of flexibility when it comes to motor swaps. I think something like a Nissan QR25DE would be an ideal swap. Since it's installed in juets about every Nissan you'd have to be able to find one relatively cheaply. As long as it can fit in the engine bay, it's probably not a lot more fabricating than would be involved in the other swaps.

If the 2.4 from a tC would fit and could be bought cheaply, that would be a good choice as well.

-Justin

 

Have you even driven one? I haul ___ all over the place. I pass all sorts of cars with big HP and torque. How many times do you go from 0-60 in an average trip? It's not a VW Bus (no offense George). Don't play the numbers game unless you remember to add the weight numbers in, and TC.

 

Yes, I have.

I didn't look up the numbers until I got back from the test drive.

The vast majority of my driving takes place between 0 and 60mph. And I'm sure I could pass a Ferrari in the xB, if the Ferrari were travelling at 60mph.

I'm not looking for thething to be 'fast' but it just seems like the box's motor is doing all it can just to move it around before you fill the interior with people and stuff.

-Justin

 

A 50 hp turbo plus supporting mods (intake, headers, full exhaust,ecu) will give you more power than the new civic Si and you still weigh 400lbs less. The Si with a driver can hit mid 15's so you could be hitting high 14's then. For about the same price in the end as a motor swap.

 

I agree. Wait for the turbo, less money, keep your warranty

 

Headers can't be added to a turbo - that shoudl be taken care of by the turbo manifold.

I would also hope that the ECU and intake should be part of a turbo kit.

Turbo and xB will put me close to 18k with no warranty. :/ That's why I was considering a motor swap. I have more faith in a 170hp n/a 2.4 than a 170hp turbo 1.5.

-Justin

 

Why wouldnt you have a warranty w/ the turbo? Wait a little while for the TRD

 

I didn't think there was a TRD turbo planned for these.

Is this a confirmed project, or just a rumor? If conformed, when and how much?

-Justin

 

where can these be found and where can they be installed? any pics of the echos that have them swapped?

 

Confirmed. So they say.

 

Who is 'they'?

Is it the same 'they' that predict a version of the xB with a twin turbo Supra motor?

Sorry if I seem a skeptic, but do you have a link to a reliable source verifying this kit? I don't want to hold my breath waiting for a vaporware turbo kit.

-Justin

 

I have a Honda background. built a few high NA motors to date. Does anyone have the actually overall dimensions of the xB engine bay? I have no problem mix matching drivetrain manufactureres to chassis manufactureres. From what i hear the GTS vvti motor has its drawbacks. A K20 drivetrain from an RSX type S on the other hand can see 300whp allmotor. The motor itself is 80lbs less in weight then the old B series honda motors. Its configuration is also like the xb's unlike the bseries which is exhaust manifold in front and intake at firewall. Given that the kseries honda motors are taking off and people are begginning to truely modify them the R&D will be copleted already. A stock K20 will put out 210whp with IHE and a Hondata reflash of the ECU. Now your looking at a 2300lb vehicle with 210whp reliably with no internals or forced indcution.


I'm sponsored by John at Hytech and Toda racing ...this was my gold car at the bottom http://www.todaracing.com/topics/project_cars.html

here is John's(hytech exhaust and rsx-tuners interview at Sema a year or so back regarding his k20 building http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...icle_id=101836 .... there are 2 videos there...one of his interview and one of his rsx on track. save as

 

My goals for the swap would be more modest and utilitarian than yours. I don;t want to build a scorcher, just a little torquier motor with a nice flat torque curve I think would be more suitable to the way I plan to use it.

I need to take some measurements of the Nissan QR25DE. I think that motor would be perfect for this. Or even the motor that the tC gets if that's plentiful enough to be found cheaply.

It's just that it's pretty rought to get the box moving now... and it could easily be loaded up with an extra 800 pounds just by filling the seats.

-Justin

 

the 2.4 is way to big the max u could go in this is 2.0l

 

A QR25 is too much motor in my opinion for this vehicle. The fiance has a SpecV sentra and even with a LS diff and more weight the car will just about yank the wheel out of your hands under certain conditions. I think the supercharger is the way to go with the advantage of better torque #'s than a typical turbo setup. All around a better tractable (*sp) vehicle for everyday driving.

 

The perfect engine swap and it can be had for only 350 pound with 40k on the odo.



2.0 Toyota Turbo diesel.

 

Or go with the 2.0 out of an 86 celica/camry