I agree with Tomas on all his points. An improvement in safety features such as side air bags would be helpful to the original xB.

I am so pleased with the two 05xBs we have, I went scrambling to find a third one (an 06) a couple of months ago before the local dealerships ran out. Do two drivers need 3 cars? Not really, but I couldn't resist after I saw the new one.


See:
http://www.clubxb.com/forums/f2/1012...category-3-xb/

Furthermore, as I said on another bulletin board, I think the second thoughts many of us are having about the new xB is that although it's a Scion, it's not in the original xB tradition of "less is more." The original is good simple spacious, non-pretentious and very foreign feeling transportation with tons of room and a bit underpowered - it has all the hallmarks of what the VW Bug and Microbus did in the 1960s. The new one is a whole different vehicle, clearly made for the young American market. I'd be interested to see how its sales compare, espcially in my age group where the original did quite well in spite of Toyota's marketing stratgies toward the younger generation. They should have called the new one something else (xTc - as in ecstasy) and taken the original, added a bit more suspension and another 18 inches or so for baby carriages and even wheelchairs and marketed it as a Toyota for the MPG concious middle and older aged folks who don't see the need for a gas guzzling SUV (S-tupid U-nnecssary V-ehicle)

But! Did the folks at Scion listen to me. Nope! Their loss. LOL

 

I've recently seen 2 new 2nd Gen by my school and I would have to say.. It's not that bad.. One thing I've noticed is that it's not really that big of a difference size wise... Maybe it's an optical illusion. One thing is for certain though... I still love and always love my 1st Gen more. But the 2nd Gen has special place in my heart..


Anyone else want to answer these? Let's revive my topic shall we??

 

I think that more people would have felt differently about the xB2 if they had given it it's own name. Why call something an xB when it is so far from the original? Scion F'd up on that one!

 

well it still kinda takes after the original xB, I think they improved a lot. Especially as far as the engine goes.

 

1) No regrets. I like the improvements, but they weren't enough for me to make the switch.
2) No; I actually like it better in person. However, it's not nearly as distinctive as the 1st-gen model.
3) The bigger engine, without a doubt. Hell, I'd be fine with the Corolla engine.
4) I don't feel inferior. After driving the new xB, it doesn't have a boatload more power than the old one, but I will say the new xB doesn't feel like you're pushing it as much as the 1st-gen does.
5) Nope. I'm running this thing until the wheels fall off.

 

1. Any regrets not waiting for the new one? None at all.
We love our three Gen1 xBs.

2. Did you change your mind about the xB2 since you've seen actual photos?
Nope - And we road tested the Gen2 5 speed manual at the Backstage event this past weekend.

3. If given the chance to choose one feature from the new one to apply to the 1st Gen what would it be. and vice versa...
From the new, I'd take the curtain air bags, from the old, I'd take the larger head room and leg room - I felt smothered in the new Gen2 like I was driving a Mini.

4. 1st Gen owners do you feel inferior to the lil' monster engine that the xB2 have?
The acceleration on the Gen2 was obviously better but so was the roll (tipping side to side) on the turns doing less that 30 MPH.

5. Would you trade your xB if you are given the chance?
Abolutely not! They'd have to do much more to the Gen2, including improving the MPG, the tendency to roll on turns and the interior space up front. If I wanted more power in a box, I could have gotten a Toyota Sienna or some other mini van that has more creeature comforts.

The success of the Gen1 Box is that "Less is more." Not true in Gen2

 

We'll excuse this comment coming from a tC owner. The only parts that remotely look like an xB are the doors which ain't saying much.

Call me crazy but it really bothers me that that thing has the xB name on it. What were they thinking???

 

I must agree with some of you regarding the JDM-ability of this new platform, however being an autoholic makes me believe that you can invariably make anything look good or even great. I personally was disappointed that Toyota USA didn't bring the true 2nd gen bB here. Here is some pics of the current bB as well as some concepts i was working on before the release.

 

third gen bB is ugly to me as well , mayeb even worse aesthetics wise than the xB2

 

I prefer the look of the original xB, but would settle for the current
bB/Materia as opposed to the current xB_Too simply because I prefer the
Citycar class of vehicle.

Keep in mind that the actual cubic feet of interior space is nearly identical
between the original xB and the xB_Too, despite the xB_Too being a foot
longer and a few inches wider...

Tom

 

yeap , the main benefit you can tell with the xb2 is the additional cargo depth. but teh loss in cabin height kills it a bit.

but most people don't pack their nice new cars to the roof with things but just place bags or boxes and that extra cargo area depth/ length is NICE

 

BTW, the current bB and the left-hand-drive version, the Materia, are being discussed
over here: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=176181

 

I do agree! I love my 1st gen and don't think I would exchange mine for either of the others-


Thanks for the link Tomas!

 

1.) No. I always have liked the design of the original, plus this is the first car I've bought out of pocket.
2.) I like the xB2, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it should be called an xB. Doesn't have the same flavor as the original.
3.) Air bags, I imagine.
4.) No, not at all. The engine is one of the reasons I chose the xB. A roomy box that sipped on gas was exactly what I needed.
5.) I love my xB, but I realize the value of the new xB2. So, I'd probably trade the xB, sell the xB2, buy the xB back and pocket some cash.

 

Exactly right. That would have been a no winner flip of the coin. Either way it lands on the edge with no true winner.

 

There is no third gen bB. There's only two generations. This xB2 isn't actually related to either bBs in any way shape or form.

 

There are 3 generations of bBs. 2 look like the xb1 and the new bB which the USA didn't get.

 

No, there actually are three generation os the JDM bB.

Our xB is derived from the second gen bB.

The first gen bB had a smooth hatch with no recess for the plate (which was mounted in a recess in the bumper) and some other minor differences, inside and out.

The current bB is considered third gen in it's home market.

Tom

 

Heheheheheh... I was typing while you were posting. :D

Tom

 

That's OK You said it way better than I tried to.