Gaining MPG from a box
Nobody mocked you and nobody tried to called you a liar. Plenty of people make claims which are based more on assumption than verification. If someone is going to recommend to others they buy some product to improve their gas mileage, it's appropriate they be ready to explain how they verified it and what the improvement due specifically to that one mod actually was.
Truth. That said, this is the post of the day. This thread reminds me of "zio mod", no offense to zio.
I came from a truck that was getting 11mpg and id have to fill that 25 gallon tank every week at $100+. Now i avg 25mpg and fill up every two weeks for $35. I dont even look at the mileage now because if i get below 25 i know its only going to cost me $35 to fill it up. Its made my stress about gas money very minimal.
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3. The top grill serves no cooling purpose above 15 mph. Cover up the front or back side of the grill. If you can find some flexible cutting boards, that some use for splash guards, and mount them behind the grill. It is a nice mod. For long trips, use the sticky plastic wrap and cover the upper grill to make the nose aerodynamic.
4. Let your engine breathe! Remove the useless intake hose. The plastic nozzle remaining points straight at the opening in the fender. Add a rubber coupling from the cold air parts isle at the local parts store and press it over the end. This will extend it into the fender. Now knock out the faux front brake cooling ducts. You have now turned the hole into a ram air inlet. Of course ram air needs a breatheable filter; get a high flow replacement air filter.
However, given people tend to accelerate a bit quicker when the engine becomes more responsive, that acceleration comes at the cost of MPG. So, chances are excellent MPG will actually drop a little with removal of the snorkel, but if that happens, it's the fault of your foot, not the intake
.If someone really wants to increase their MPG, best ways are maintain recommended tire pressure and wheel alignment (particularly the toe), pull out from stops gently and take your time approaching a stop, coast when safe to do so, avoid extended idling. Shift gears at or near the recommended speeds, try to avoid higher rpm, keep your speed below 65mph, use the cruise control (per the OP). Plan your trips to minimize how many times per day/week the car is used.
I wasn't going to diginify this thread with a post but since so many have... why not just get one of those 100 mpg carburetors that the oil companies bought the patent for and call it a day? LOL!
BTW, you can get better mpg without the cruise control by allowing your speed to reduce while going up-hill and then gaining it gradually back down-hill. You'll annoy the hell out of drivers like me who use the CC to maintain the maximum speed that traffic cops allow before ticketing (<10mph over) but if you're anything like the drivers I deal with everyday, you won't care at all. You'll just go merrily on driving any speed you like in the passing lane with 20 angry drivers behind you and not a care in the world other than saving a few pennies worth of gas...
In short, get a Prius, VW TDI, etc. and stay in the right lane MPG people.
BTW, you can get better mpg without the cruise control by allowing your speed to reduce while going up-hill and then gaining it gradually back down-hill. You'll annoy the hell out of drivers like me who use the CC to maintain the maximum speed that traffic cops allow before ticketing (<10mph over) but if you're anything like the drivers I deal with everyday, you won't care at all. You'll just go merrily on driving any speed you like in the passing lane with 20 angry drivers behind you and not a care in the world other than saving a few pennies worth of gas...
In short, get a Prius, VW TDI, etc. and stay in the right lane MPG people.
BTW, you can get better mpg without the cruise control by allowing your speed to reduce while going up-hill and then gaining it gradually back down-hill. You'll annoy the hell out of drivers like me who use the CC to maintain the maximum speed that traffic cops allow before ticketing
!Exiting red lights, I usually feel as though there's a sprint going on around me, even when there's another light just ahead that's red or soon to be. I've noticed over the years as cars have become more responsive due to improved emissions controls, higher HP per CC, and generally lower weight, the sprint gets steadily faster. Most people having automatics probably helps that, just push down on the go-pedal and the car goes. I am MPG conscious and I do generally stay to the right, and typically drive with a light throttle, and I coast plenty. All my driving is town and local with highest speed about 50mph and plenty of traffic and lights. However, I reliably get 300 miles or more per tank and almost broke 30MPG (hand calculated) late last summer -- wonder if I can actually get there this summer
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Exiting red lights, I usually feel as though there's a sprint going on around me, even when there's another light just ahead that's red or soon to be. I've noticed over the years as cars have become more responsive due to improved emissions controls, higher HP per CC, and generally lower weight, the sprint gets steadily faster. Most people having automatics probably helps that, just push down on the go-pedal and the car goes. I am MPG conscious and I do generally stay to the right, and typically drive with a light throttle, and I coast plenty. All my driving is town and local with highest speed about 50mph and plenty of traffic and lights. However, I reliably get 300 miles or more per tank and almost broke 30MPG (hand calculated) late last summer -- wonder if I can actually get there this summer
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!Exiting red lights, I usually feel as though there's a sprint going on around me, even when there's another light just ahead that's red or soon to be. I've noticed over the years as cars have become more responsive due to improved emissions controls, higher HP per CC, and generally lower weight, the sprint gets steadily faster. Most people having automatics probably helps that, just push down on the go-pedal and the car goes. I am MPG conscious and I do generally stay to the right, and typically drive with a light throttle, and I coast plenty. All my driving is town and local with highest speed about 50mph and plenty of traffic and lights. However, I reliably get 300 miles or more per tank and almost broke 30MPG (hand calculated) late last summer -- wonder if I can actually get there this summer
!There's certainly nothing wrong with driving to optimize fuel economy and I advocate it 100% and practice it 50%. I've never understood what motivates some people to race from red light to red light much as I can't understand the passing lane squatting ____wit's refusal to yield to faster traffic. Most of my post last night was a rant caused by just having driven home on the infamous Balt/Wash Parkway where drivers compete daily for the honor of being the worst, most obnoxious, inconsiderate driver in the world.
Anyway, IMO the best way to optimize fuel economy is by driving for fuel economy. I don't believe in mythical 100mpg carburetors, tornado intake inserts, rare earth magnets, vortex gizmos stuck on the roof or blocking off engine cooling inlets. Obviously improving aerodynamics would help but who has access to a wind tunnel to test their home-made mods?
Good luck hitting 30mpg this summer. I'm still averaging 25-27 mpg mixed hwy/city and that's good enough for me as I zip past most Lexus, Infiniti, MB, BMW and Acura "sport" models.
Last edited by ScionFred; May 31, 2011 at 04:24 AM.
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Anyway, sorry 'bout the thread-jack. On topic all I can add is that turbo-charging has very little (if any) negative effect on fuel economy when you don't use the extra power (but what fun is that?).
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