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Old Jul 9, 2021 | 09:48 PM
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Talking 2010 xB 5 speed stick / Want taller gears..

Hello xB friends,

I'd like to know if there is a taller 5th gear for my manual transmission on the 2010 xB.
Or a manual transmission swap? Also, knowledge of a transmission person who has pulled off this change.

Thank you.

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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 02:57 PM
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Welcome Marc. You still got your ears on? The 5th and 6th speed ODs on the newer 6 speed trannys don't have much of an OD either. It's almost worthless to go from direct (4th gear), into 5th because the spread is barely a couple hundred RPM drop. 6th is only marginally better. Haven't found out what the rear gear ratios are yet in these cars, but maybe because the 4 cyls. have so little power, they need to gear them low, to keep them in a higher power band. IDK. The stock 2014 tC runs about 3K RPMs at about 75 MPH. Someone on this site mentioned a Camery OD being better. Not sure if that'll pertain to your 5 speed. Keep posting.
Old Jul 16, 2021 | 05:30 PM
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The xB already has the tallest gear ratio for E35X series transmission so a straight gear swap isn't possible.

At one time there was a kit made to swap the 6 speed of the newer 2.5L engine to fit the earlier 2.4L. It was expensive and gained almost nothing in terms of fuel economy.
Old Jul 16, 2021 | 09:53 PM
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Yeah, taller gearing really makes minor difference in MPG. That's because at 65mph, it will still require exact same ~15hp to push car through air regardless of gearing.

Since Hp = (Tq*RPM)/5250 , lowering revs will require more torque to generate same HP. You'll have to use larger throttle openings with taller gearing. So MPG becomes a wash. It make bigger difference if you stray away from torque-peak/max-Ve of engine too far though.
Old Jul 17, 2021 | 01:00 PM
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Does anyone know what the final drive (differential) ratio is on a stick shift 2014 tC? I don't believe there are optional ones, but all the same. Don't know if the automatics are different from the stick shifts. I'm guessing something like 3 to 1, or maybe even 3.5 to 1.
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