redline8k

coryjames what are you doing now... Pm me if you dont what anyone else to know... ;)
-nick

xseveredveganx

He's putting a couple of snails on his motor...

coryjames

lol yeah just wont have a need for the header and intake any more so any one want to make a offer its a good deal and if you want to hear what it sounds like http://youtube.com/watch?v=l_2dd4PLqOw

this is with trd exhaust

lvbitwiz

Ooo? ter-bow?

coryjames

lol maybe im just putting it back to stock ever think that?

xseveredveganx

Heck yeah!! Return it to stock!! These things are going to only appreciate in value since they're the original year of the change!!!

lvbitwiz

hmmm....

cmon, spill it. whatcha gettin?

redline8k

^^ thats what Im thinking...

kortik

so any power gains w/this header?
does the manufacturer has a dyno runs w/stock vs strup header
how do I know what gains I am getting?
usually there should be something in that nature so I now I buy a better performance header?

coryjames

its more of common sense gains take out a cat gain some power im selling mine today to a kid in colorado

kortik

cat only looses 1-2whp its not a significant power lost. I need to know if there is any gains vs stock header. Why would I want to buy a header which does not outperform the stock header?

coryjames

well this again common sence free up the exhaust path gain power and it looks a whole lot better then the stock one

kortik

any proof dyno runs vs stock.
just telling me that it free up the exhaust path does not mean anything unless there are gains vs stock set up. proven on the dyno .
why would I buy a product that does not outperform the stock header?

CIONIDE

iTrader: (1)

It is a generally accepted automotive fact that tuned equal length headers will always perform better than stock mass produced exhaust manifolds.

If you don't accept this, then don't buy one.

coryjames

thanks cionide lol im selling mine today i just put the stock one back on then in another month you will see a real manifold lol

Number2

rice rice baby!

coryjames

my exhaust is so quiet now paul yours is the only RICE i see lol hahahahahahahah

kortik

well then spent your money on something that is not even better that stock. yes equal length headers will perform better but how do you know that w/this particular header? where is the proof.
and the proof is Dyno sheets stock vs strup.

I just recently bought a header for my matrix which is a 2zz-ge same engine is celica gts etc..
I dint just spent my money because it looks good but becuaus it outperforms my stock header:
here:
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/show...&postcount=202

Lip

What was the cost of that "race" header? The truth is...even with a dynosheet do you think that even the header you posted is (significant) gains? With pretty much any header...your going to see some gains, probably a mile per gallon or more in fuel economy and she'll breath better up to as long as the primaries don't collect too quickly(like forced induction requires). are you going to see hp impromeents? yes. Are you going to see fuel economy improvements? yes slightly. Are you going to see this turbo boost kick in the butt difference? absolutely not. You will notice a slight difference but i wouldn't go and dyno my car to see a few hp. I would be happy to sell one header and exhaust and exhaust at half price if someone were willing to dynotune and post the results. You would have to dyno stock, add exhaust, dyno, add header, dyno. Place would have to be reputable and video required showing your doing exactly what your doing.

with that said...whats does a dyno sheet do for you if you purchased a race header to see 4-8hp gains. 60-130whp up to 6500rpms isn't significant hp unless your car weighs 1600lbs.

here is clearstars xb that was just in the NY autoshow in the scion display

MaxBoost925

Does that S-pipe on that catback fit the stock axleback muffler?