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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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so i just had a tripple disc fusion in my lumbar spine 3 weeks ago and i've had nothing to do but pop pain meds and think about what to do with the xB. i have the cai, header, light weight pulley's and an exhaust but still want more performance out of the engine, without boosting it. since i can't physically work on my car right now, i have time to save money and plan the next big buy. has anyone heard about anything new that is aimed towards pepping up the motor a bit more that might be headed our way? please humor me!!! the walls stopped talking to me and now i'm bored!!
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Leaf blower! Saw a youtube vid awhile back where a guy hooked one up to his intake (while on a dyno) and it actually gained power! LOL

On a serious note I think you've maxed out your options for more power unless you boost it (turbo, s/c, nitrous).
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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If you don't want to do nitrous or any type of forced induction, there is marginal luck. However, Brian Crower recently released some cams for the 2AZFE. What does that mean, that means a lopier cam profile for more power. I know if I opted for this route, I'd probably run something like the AEM F/IC just to make sure everything's running right. Larger injectors are also available.
Another option, albeit an expensive one, is to get your head ported and polished and larger valves installed. That does get real expensive, real quick. You could get it ExtrudeHoned, but once again, expensive.
IMO, a good combo would be the TRD supercharger, the Brian Crower forced induction cam, the smaller supercharger pulley, and the AEM F/IC. Just some ideas...
Weapon-R also has a sheetmetal intake manifold...
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...618993#3618993

Cam links:
http://www.braincrower.com/makes/toyota/2azfe.shtml
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=227178
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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You could always get the aem fic and just tune with the parts you already have? I don't believe that sheet m0etal intake manifold is out yet. Other than that head porting and valvetrain work are probably the only things left for you to do. Your at that point where you might just want to look into forced induction. no one has really taken this engine too far NA. It can be done its just how much $$$ do you want to throw at it.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xseveredveganx
If you don't want to do nitrous or any type of forced induction, there is marginal luck. However, Brian Crower recently released some cams for the 2AZFE. What does that mean, that means a lopier cam profile for more power. I know if I opted for this route, I'd probably run something like the AEM F/IC just to make sure everything's running right. Larger injectors are also available.
Another option, albeit an expensive one, is to get your head ported and polished and larger valves installed. That does get real expensive, real quick. You could get it ExtrudeHoned, but once again, expensive.
IMO, a good combo would be the TRD supercharger, the Brian Crower forced induction cam, the smaller supercharger pulley, and the AEM F/IC. Just some ideas...
Weapon-R also has a sheetmetal intake manifold...
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...618993#3618993

Cam links:
http://www.braincrower.com/makes/toyota/2azfe.shtml
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=227178
You could also go with the BC stroker kit... turns it into a 2.6 litter... only costs $3500 for the parts... lol and then you still have to get the cam and springs another $1000 and get the heads ported, then sleeve it while your at it... Oh dont forget the AEM F/IC too with some tuning...
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I think gude is makeing a head package... I have no info though.
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Sorry to butt in how much are the set of cams from Crower and where can i get some info?
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*****!!! yes, *****!! i appreciate the info. all of it seems a bit out of the price range i was looking for, and i don't want to run NOS (i'm scared). spending $3000+ for the trd supercharger for 50hp isn't feasable... yet. on another note, i just wrote random technology (they make SS hi flow direct bolt in cats) to see if they'd be interested in developing something that would replace the "scuba tank" with a single or dual cat set up. if i can swing it, is there anyone who would like to donate their vehicle for r&d purposes ? say, in the GA area?? i wish i still lived in SC!!!

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on another note... whats this AEM f/ic thing that everyone speaks of? i'm a small block chevy guy and this is the first import i've tuned (if you'd call it that).
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The F/ic will allow you to go get dyno tuned. It should waken up those other mods you already have.


AEMs F/IC is a PC-programmable piggy-back controller that allows users to retard timing and add fuel to virtually any engine, even on variable cam timing engines (VTEC, iVTEC, VVTi, MiVEC, etc.). The F/IC is the perfect solution for eliminating outdated FMUs and boost hiding electronics and is ideal for newer cars with knock detection that have non-factory forced induction systems.

The F/IC uses a vehicles factory base map to create calibrations via a powered USB connection to a PC, so drivability and cold start are not affected. Since the F/IC modifies the factory timing patterns it is not necessary to know them in advance. The F/IC can also recalibrate sensors so users can add a MAP sensor for boost without affecting the signal to the ECU.

Since the F/IC is a trim device it will not cause the factory ECU to throw a check engine light because it allows the user to intercept and modify the cam and crank inputs. Additional injector drivers allow users to control up to six additional injectors for high-horsepower vehicles. And it works on variable cam timing engines.

Works with latest OBD-2 vehicles including variable valve control
Variable Valve timing controller based on Engine RPM and Load
Six (6) injector inputs with simulated injector load used when remapping OEM injectors
Six (6) fuel injector controllers for either remapping of ECU output (+200%/-100% trim) or as a stand-alone extra injector driver
Six (6) short-circuit protected high-impedance injector driver outputs (2amps ea)
USB PC interface and programmable using power from USB port (Supports field re-flashing)
Supports approximately two minutes of on-board data acquisition
Three (3) channels of timing retard
Supports MAG or HALL sensor types
On board 41PSIA (approx. 25PSI boost) manifold pressure sensor
Analog in/out for remapping MAF or external MAP sensor
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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1vicissitude, thanks for the input... this is completely foreign to me, unfortunately. i guess if i was going to go this route, i'd want to know if anyone else is running this with any success. i checked their site and read the same thing (was scratching my head then, too) and it said that it works with the 05-06 tc, which uses the same engine, but i'm sure we don't have the same ecu's, which is making it hard for any obd II piggy back tuners to come to light.

there was a thread that weapon-r was r&ding some sort of a plug and play box that was to work along with their header and "s" pipe, but i've found nothing on their site as to if it worked or if it will be released.
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Originally Posted by whitebreadbox
*****!!! yes, *****!! i appreciate the info. all of it seems a bit out of the price range i was looking for, and i don't want to run NOS (i'm scared). spending $3000+ for the trd supercharger for 50hp isn't feasable... yet. on another note, i just wrote random technology (they make SS hi flow direct bolt in cats) to see if they'd be interested in developing something that would replace the "scuba tank" with a single or dual cat set up. if i can swing it, is there anyone who would like to donate their vehicle for r&d purposes ? say, in the GA area?? i wish i still lived in SC!!!

Random Technology
4430 Tuck Road
Loganville, GA 30052
Phone: (770) 554-4242 Fax: (770) 554-4244

on another note... whats this AEM f/ic thing that everyone speaks of? i'm a small block chevy guy and this is the first import i've tuned (if you'd call it that).
I just left GA. I was there all week.
Old Aug 24, 2008 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NoLimitzInd

I just left GA. I was there all week.

well, did you happen to read my thoughts before i had them and stop by for some r&d? ***** again!!! your ride is sweet!!! love what you've done with it!!




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