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r2d2michael 05-28-2011 08:30 PM

xB on the Dyno I/H/E Auto
 
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Well i finaly went to they dyno today. i felt out of place as i was the only toyota in gang of hondas lol. Dyno is a Mustang Dynamometer.

Mods:
Weapon R Header
Weapon R S-Pipe
Tenzo R Intake
Strup Cat-Back
Still have stock scuba tank.

Video link at bottom!

Came in at:

WHP 148
fT-Lbs 154

not to bad. did about 10 runs and they were all around that + or - 1-2hp.
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Video link

http://youtu.be/B02gTqI7nBU

TrevorS 05-29-2011 11:45 PM

Please excuse, but are these numbers wheel or flywheel? I looked at the printout, but if it's there, I didn't spot it.

r2d2michael 05-30-2011 12:23 AM

sorry i thought i put wheel on there. but it is Wheel NOT flywheel

TrevorS 05-30-2011 12:47 AM

Got it, thanks! Can't say I've a lot of experience with this, but given it's an auto, those numbers seem pretty good :)!

r2d2michael 05-30-2011 12:55 AM

thats what i thought! another auto in here with the same mods and the unichip made less than what i just made so that made me happy. plus i herd the mustang dyno reads low but owell. i should put a lsit of dyno results togather...sorry about spelling

TrevorS 05-30-2011 03:23 AM

No sweat and good job :)!

FromTheOld 05-30-2011 03:50 AM

Good #'s for an auto.

r2d2michael 05-30-2011 03:52 AM

after looking at looks like the avg stock auto is 125. so im at 148whp. thats 23whp! i think thats good for bolt ons anyway. total it cost about 900 i would say. all in all i am now on par with a stock 5 speed lol

ScionFred 05-30-2011 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by r2d2michael (Post 3849101)
after looking at looks like the avg stock auto is 125. so im at 148whp. thats 23whp! i think thats good for bolt ons anyway. total it cost about 900 i would say. all in all i am now on par with a stock 5 speed lol

That is great for bolt-ons! Import Tuner tested a RS 5 stock and then added a Strup header, AEM CAI and TRD axle-back and went from 126 whp, 128 tq to 141 whp, 140 tq. IMO most of the difference is made by the Strup cat-back replacing the under-sized oem mid-pipe but the W-R header and S-pipe also helped for sure. Good build.

You may only have stock 5 speed whp but that's enough to beat one in a drag race. :)


Import Tuner link: http://www.importtuner.com/powerpage...rs5/index.html

r2d2michael 05-30-2011 06:10 AM

That RS5 is an auto right?. My next plans are nst pulleys and unichip. After that maybe higher a compression ratio

ScionFred 05-30-2011 06:26 AM

Yes, the RS 5 they tested was an auto. After running the NST under-drive crank pulley for over a year I highly recommend it. It may only free up 2-3whp but every little bit helps. Lightweight pulleys may help the engine rev a little faster but it's highly unlikely that they could add any measurable increase in hp or tq. Elwaylite dyno tested his car with the Unichip and gained 5whp.

For ideas you should check out what some of the TC guys are doing for N/A builds. A few of them have acheived 200whp.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=198497


BTW, your video link is to a jpg image.

r2d2michael 05-30-2011 06:37 AM

lol thanks for pointing out the link i just fixed it. and yea i been looking at the tc threads a lot. my grand planes are turbo+tranny build once the car is paid off. an extra 500 a month adds up!!

ScionFred 05-31-2011 05:20 AM

If your ultimate plans are turbo, forget about raising compression. Just save up $4000 and you could be quicker than any 200whp 2AZ-FE N/A build, most Lexus, infiniti, MB, BMW, Acura, VW or Hyundai "sport" models. Realistically, a turbo + tranny build will cost you $10k and you'll only be slightly quicker than the $4000 build.

The beauty of this approach is that if you win the lottery or whatever, you can get the $4000-5000 built tranny and torque converter and simply raise the boost.

Feel free to PM with any questions.

r2d2michael 05-31-2011 02:50 PM

i understand the 10k. but i like to tinker with all my toys and my turbo,tranny planes are way down the road. i would probly build tranny first then turbo anyway. i have followed most of your threads on your build snf they help a lot for us auto guys.

ScionFred 06-04-2011 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by r2d2michael (Post 3849867)
i understand the 10k. but i like to tinker with all my toys and my turbo,tranny planes are way down the road. i would probly build tranny first then turbo anyway. i have followed most of your threads on your build snf they help a lot for us auto guys.

I suppose it all comes down to bang for the buck and how many bucks you're willing to spend. Jay Leno can build a 700whp RWD Olds Toronado with a Corvette chassis on a whim. For me it's just not worth a $4-5K tranny to have 300whp when I can have up to 250whp on the stock tranny with a cooler. I'll eventually end up with a different car but it would be very cool to see someone push the XB to the next level and beyond.

I'm also a little skeptical of built trans. How much extra tq can a FWD AT designed for 240ft lbs max really be made to handle with a valve body upgrade and more clutches? I've also heard bad things about built Toyota AT's from P-Tuning, URD and several TC owners who've since swapped to MT's.

Talk to IPT, Level Ten, TC guys, etc. and decide if it's worth it to you. Good luck with it whatever you decide and thanks again for taking the time to dyno test your XB. I look forward to future updates on your "tinkering". :)

xb2owner 06-12-2011 01:03 PM

Curious as to what size wheels and tires you're running, they look good!

millardmt 06-22-2011 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by r2d2michael (Post 3849005)
sorry i thought i put wheel on there. but it is Wheel NOT flywheel

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but how could a test like this possibly measure anything BUT wheel horsepower?

M

r2d2michael 06-23-2011 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by millardmt (Post 3863212)
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but how could a test like this possibly measure anything BUT wheel horsepower?

M

That is a very good point!!! Lol


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