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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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what you guys think of the stuff? if you have any qs or knowledge lets hear it and your take for the use of cheap wonderful racegas.
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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There's a thread in the tC forum about this right now. Someone mentioned an article in Modified Magazine... and I'm guessing that may have been what prompted you?
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I wish we it was more available here in Jersey, thats what I think about it. Lot of good power being made with it.
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me included and if you have any qs let me know i have some know how of the stuff

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Did you convert your fuel lines that are compatible with e-85? There's a reason why they sell flex-fuel and non-flex fuel vehicles.

I used it a few times in my old 99 Ford Ranger. Didn't see much of a difference expect my gas mileage was worse, I'm sure for boost applications it's great stuff and it's cheap.
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well i am running 900cc injectors with a turboed motor i made 30 more hp on it then pump gas due to bbeing able to add timing its also all of 172 a gallon
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this stuff is awesome, i filled up yesterday for $17 and averaged 30mpg on that tank. oh and its noticeably quicker
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oh and it smells really good too
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Lol yes it does burning alco mmmmmmmmmm oh yeah I'm on 900s thorium is on what size injectors?
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im only running 550's and a walbro pump
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shoot, I was running 550s at 8 psi and was almost maxed out. Now I'm running 700cc and is all good. Cory how long have you been running e85? Have you done any changes to the system? If running FIC, how much did you added in the fuel map to compensate from gas to e85? Any details that you could spare will be highly appreciated.

I've been contemplating this the last couple of weeks, ever since I upgraded to 700cc and soon walboro pump that's waiting in the garage.
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my idcs on my 550's are about 70% close to redline, im also running the supercharger, so it probably doesnt flow as much as your typical turbo setup. when i tuned for the e85, i just started with my 91 octane map and added about 30% more across the board and fine tuned from there. That will get you pretty close in afrs. Im also using the fic, and my fuel trims are very close to zero.

the general consensus is that the only things that really need attention on the fuel system are injectors and possibly a pump. but most modern cars are designed to run some ethanol mix, so corrosion should not be much trouble.
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Cool I'm trying E85 again.

Well a new E85 pump has come up near where I am so I've decided to see what happens. I let my Xa run down to about a 1/4 tank puting it at about 3 gallons or so and I was able to get 8 gallons in her this morning with no check light . I'll let you know what happens tomorrow morning after I cold start her.

Fyi = I'll normally run 93 octane anyways to get that 5 extra horse . Ha
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I ended doing about 30 miles of driving today. No check light what so ever and seriously picked up power. I've driven the Xd before and I can honestly say it feels like my little 1NZ is a 1.8L. Normally when I go up hills I have to down shift to atleast 4th, but I don't have to anymore with this fuel combo Muhaha. E85 FTW!
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sweet some cars are that easy im running twin intank walbros with -8 feed and return with a aeromotive regulator and golden eagle fuel rail with 900cc injectors
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Sweet setup man. My Xa is totally stock expect that i've always ran it with Mobil 1 it's life, I haven't even put a converter box on.
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Pump and injectors is all it takes to get e85 on our cars? That doesn't seem right.
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some times it works
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Exclamation Yes it works.

See I did this testing two years ago and found that atleast the 1NZ can hold ~ 70-75% ethonal before throughing a code . But I got discouraged because I ended up pushing it too far and the E85 station was just too F$$$ing far away . The trick is to find a mixture of E10 and E85 your car likes before setting off the check light. I suggest using your preminm gasoline you have on hand, as it will help keep the octane rating up and you should be golden .

Also shes cold starting on one crack and running like a little monster and my tires are breaking loose in second gear in the rain.

FYI = I'm running a 1/4 E10 93 octane and 3/4 E85 105 octane



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