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2013 Scion xB & Release Series info. Lots of pics of my White 2013 "build" on p8+
wow, I haven't been on these forums in ages! :lalala:
I had an 06 xB for almost 4 years and I loved it... I traded it in for a 2010 Mercedes E350 but I honestly miss the xB and I think I want another one... The lease on the Merc is ending in January 2013 (11 months left or so)... I am almost sure I want an xB again... but is there a new model coming out or is it just an updates version of the current line? Is there anything in the works for a redesigned xB for the 2013/2014 model year? I have googled the hell out of this but didn't come up with anything concrete... Anyone in the know willing to fill us in? :) cheers, gang! -midtowndesi |
What the? Are you serious? Why would you go backwards...the merc is a much much nicer car. Go Lexus if you want out of the German crowd...don't drop all way down to a xB.
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Originally Posted by midtowndesi
(Post 3972194)
is there a new model coming out or is it just an updates version of the current line?
Is there anything in the works for a redesigned xB for the 2013/2014 model year? I have googled the hell out of this but didn't come up with anything concrete... Anyone in the know willing to fill us in? :) |
I don't have any information on a redesign or anything but I feel like we won't be seeing anything new anytime soon. However, how is your E350? I recently took delivery of a 2012 E350, Sport, P1, Driver's Assist.
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Originally Posted by Ricersux
(Post 3972374)
What the? Are you serious? Why would you go backwards...the merc is a much much nicer car. Go Lexus if you want out of the German crowd...don't drop all way down to a xB.
ummm yeah what he said...:confused: |
Cheaper?
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^^^ BINGO!
@jnaval - the e350 is amazing. It literally feels like you're driving the comfiest couch on the planet powered by an amazing engine. It's a very smooth car and I have been bitten by the Mercedes bug. I plan on getting an s550 in a few years. mine had the p2 package, panaroramic sunroof, gun metal gray exterior and white interior... the car is a work of art on wheels. the ipod integration with the car is one of the nicest ones i've seen - so fluid and easy to use, not cumbersome while driving. in short - mb knows what they're doing. The benz has been good - some minor technical glitches though (passenger side window motor went bad, quirky problems with auto-up on the windows leaving the window open sometimes, et al).. these are very minor compared to what happened at 1800 miles.... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w212...-one-time.html I've had the car for like 2+ years now and it only has 14k miles on it - that's another reason i dont want an expensive car - i barely drive. but what sucks is that i had almost 40k miles on the box and i never had a single MINOR OR MAJOR issue with it... at 14k miles, the benz has some quirks that i am actually quite surprised to find... but i digress. i want an xB again because it was such a fun car to drive. i parked it anywhere and didnt care about it. it got awesome gas mileage, it's big, it has some great standard features and for the price, i could not find a comparable car. when i bought my 06 xB brand new, i told myself i would never sell it.... idk why i did... i honestly regret it... it had almost 40k miles and i didn't have a single issue in the almost 4 years that i had it... if i had to make the choice again between keeping my 06 xb and getting a new benz, i would keep the box without hesitation. just for comparison sakes, if you take the down payment + the 38 monthly payments for my e350, you can almost literally lease an xb for FOUR 3-YEAR LEASES IN A ROW for the same cost of the benz for 3 years....... my e350 has almost every option (sticker was almost $70k) except massaging seats because i didnt want to die in a car crash after falling asleep after a killer massage :D i can afford another benz, even the s-class, but i just want something carefree... plus, i got bitten by the travel bug and would rather spend my $ on flights to miami than on a car i barely drive ;-) haha |
Random...but why are people calling the xB2 (with a redesigned bumper), an xB3?
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Originally Posted by Roller_Toaster
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Random...but why are people calling the xB2 (with a redesigned bumper), an xB3?
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Do not buy one until they upgrade the ancient powertrain. I'm sorry but a 2012 model anything should not have a 4 speed auto.
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Yup^^^
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The current Gen2 is getting a little long in the tooth so they probably will make much needed improvements to the powertrain.
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i appreciate the tips, gang! i totally agree on waiting for the newer model to come out. i dig what they did with the new tC but it's just not big enough for me... i will be first on the list for the new xB! >:D
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A lot of people bash the power train, but that torque has always come in handy when I needed it. My xB stock can really gun it sometimes when I need that power.
And with bolt-ons, although only minimally faster, helps out tremendously, too. You might want to give the new xB a test drive and see how it compares to your old box. It's totally different, not nearly as economy-oriented as your generation was. You'll notice the increase in power immediately. |
Yeah, I like what my 2008 xB2 manual is doing for me, but I'm definitely interested in learning what the dual VVTi 2.5L with 6 speed manual would make better! Let's face it, we're all greedy and the future is always more interesting than the present :)! Still, athough I'm still under 11Kmi, I can't complain about performance. However, as is typical for human beings, I'd like more :)!
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I like my xB and it's 4 speed automatic transmission which is why I had no problem keeping it along with the E350. Looks like you've made your decision to wait for a redesigned xB. I would say that with the money you've got on the E350, pick it up at the end of the lease. Or pick up the 2012+ E350 with the updated engine @ 302HP and BLUEEFFICIENCY add-ons.
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6 speed auto should have better mpg. One of the gripes with the current xB2. Imo Scion should dump the xd and give the next xB two engine choices and maybe a limited number of open decks (if they ever make one, though they should). Hell Kia changed up engines and transmissions mid cycle yet Toyota couldn't or wouldn't? WTH?! And if rumors are true Kia may be bringing the soulster to market. I really like Scion, but I'm not sure if sales can keep the xB alive with the way things are going. Again it's just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by jnaval
(Post 3973088)
I like my xB and it's 4 speed automatic transmission which is why I had no problem keeping it along with the E350. Looks like you've made your decision to wait for a redesigned xB. I would say that with the money you've got on the E350, pick it up at the end of the lease. Or pick up the 2012+ E350 with the updated engine @ 302HP and BLUEEFFICIENCY add-ons.
as for the power trai, i think i am the only person on this forum that was happy with the gen1 power train. it's an economy car and i simply wanted to be able to get around town. as a joke, my friends would say that the gas pedal on the xB gen1 only made the engine louder :D haha |
I meant that you should purchase the car at the end of the lease and keep it as a weekend or road trip car, unless you were already planning to. I was under the impression that you'd be returning the E350 and getting an xB.
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ahh - thanks so much for the clarification. i actually am thinking of returning the e350 (not buying it at the end of the lease) and getting an xB... while it would make sense to buy it at the end of lease, the back seats of the e350 are a little too cramped for roadtrips and i want something bigger... i would prefer getting an s550 in a few years and getting an xB in the meantime.
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Originally Posted by midtowndesi
(Post 3973169)
thanks for the tip but what do you mean that i should 'pick it up at the end of the lease?' to my understanding, my down payment is not refundable and even if i were to lease another merc, the dealer said i would have to put in another down payment from scratch - essentially i'll be paying another $25k+ for another merc (down payment + monthlys for 39 months)... is there something im missing?
as for the power trai, i think i am the only person on this forum that was happy with the gen1 power train. it's an economy car and i simply wanted to be able to get around town. as a joke, my friends would say that the gas pedal on the xB gen1 only made the engine louder :D haha |
Originally Posted by Sciond
(Post 3973675)
from another gen 1 and Mercedes owner I have an ML350 Bluetec I would agree that the gen 1 had enough power, it never felt slow
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Originally Posted by Sciond
(Post 3973675)
from another gen 1 and Mercedes owner I have an ML350 Bluetec I would agree that the gen 1 had enough power, it never felt slow
The xB2 has a decent amount of torque, but I wouldn't complain if there was more. I personally don't care about mpg all that much, but I know most folks do. |
Originally Posted by VENisME
(Post 3974155)
I agree, until I put 2 or 3 people in it, then I would have to whine the crap out of it just to get up a hill. Of course some of my friends aren't fly weights lol.
The xB2 has a decent amount of torque, but I wouldn't complain if there was more. I personally don't care about mpg all that much, but I know most folks do. If I wanted to save the world and gas money I would get a Prius or something equal to it. |
Originally Posted by midtowndesi
(Post 3972702)
^^^ BINGO!
@jnaval - the e350 is amazing. It literally feels like you're driving the comfiest couch on the planet powered by an amazing engine. It's a very smooth car and I have been bitten by the Mercedes bug. I plan on getting an s550 in a few years. mine had the p2 package, panaroramic sunroof, gun metal gray exterior and white interior... the car is a work of art on wheels. the ipod integration with the car is one of the nicest ones i've seen - so fluid and easy to use, not cumbersome while driving. in short - mb knows what they're doing. The benz has been good - some minor technical glitches though (passenger side window motor went bad, quirky problems with auto-up on the windows leaving the window open sometimes, et al).. these are very minor compared to what happened at 1800 miles.... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w212...-one-time.html I've had the car for like 2+ years now and it only has 14k miles on it - that's another reason i dont want an expensive car - i barely drive. but what sucks is that i had almost 40k miles on the box and i never had a single MINOR OR MAJOR issue with it... at 14k miles, the benz has some quirks that i am actually quite surprised to find... but i digress. i want an xB again because it was such a fun car to drive. i parked it anywhere and didnt care about it. it got awesome gas mileage, it's big, it has some great standard features and for the price, i could not find a comparable car. when i bought my 06 xB brand new, i told myself i would never sell it.... idk why i did... i honestly regret it... it had almost 40k miles and i didn't have a single issue in the almost 4 years that i had it... if i had to make the choice again between keeping my 06 xb and getting a new benz, i would keep the box without hesitation. just for comparison sakes, if you take the down payment + the 38 monthly payments for my e350, you can almost literally lease an xb for FOUR 3-YEAR LEASES IN A ROW for the same cost of the benz for 3 years....... my e350 has almost every option (sticker was almost $70k) except massaging seats because i didnt want to die in a car crash after falling asleep after a killer massage :D i can afford another benz, even the s-class, but i just want something carefree... plus, i got bitten by the travel bug and would rather spend my $ on flights to miami than on a car i barely drive ;-) haha
Originally Posted by AAG
(Post 3972904)
Do not buy one until they upgrade the ancient powertrain. I'm sorry but a 2012 model anything should not have a 4 speed auto.
Originally Posted by pyroman131
(Post 3973048)
A lot of people bash the power train, but that torque has always come in handy when I needed it. My xB stock can really gun it sometimes when I need that power.
And with bolt-ons, although only minimally faster, helps out tremendously, too. You might want to give the new xB a test drive and see how it compares to your old box. It's totally different, not nearly as economy-oriented as your generation was. You'll notice the increase in power immediately. |
I get great torque from my 2008 as well as 27+ mpg. To be sure, I'd prefer even greater mpg, but how one drives hugely impacts that :)! I personally drive primarily for mpg -- though, lack of highway miles has to limit that :(.
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xb2 has a dope power n speed if ur looking to have fun. I've done almost ever bolt on mod currently out there.If you do it right it can have close to mid range v6 power. And mines an auto. I hate the 4spd but it gets the job done!
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Originally Posted by Darrenohooligan
(Post 3974596)
You make some damn good points.
I appreciate the kind words. I even looked up the tire/bolt patterns on the current xB and the rims that i currently have on the benz will fit an xB if i decide to get one :D but yeah, i had such a horrible experience with the wheels/tires and there was actually a lawsuit put together by maybe 200 people against mercedes benz because their rims are of inferior quality. not sure where that went though. anyway, a friend of mine has a versa and im digging those as well... but the xB just has more options and the interior is nicer.... no matter what car i compare the xB against, the xB always wins for price & what you get :D the only positive thing i can think of is that most of the other cars i am considering (versa, element, civic, etc) is that you can negotiate those prices if you are buying the car out right with cash, which i plan to do for my next xB.... when i purchased my first xb, the dealer would not budge on the price..... :| |
the time is nearing!!!
My benz goes back to MB in about 4 months. I've been thinking about it over the last few months and I'm 99.9% sure that I'm getting a 2012 WHITE xB because i miss my 2006 white xb so much >:D Does anyone know of any Scion deals or anything going on around year end? I plan on getting it with auto trans, front+rear sway bars, foglights. I think that's it for me - i'm really not a big mod person..... |
Originally Posted by TrevorS
(Post 3972422)
I'm pretty sure there's no info out yet regarding a next version -- if there were, I'm pretty sure I'd have spotted a thread on one of the forums I frequent. I guess the 2014 model year is a possibility since they did a refresh for the 2011.
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you are right - there is no "redesigned 2013" model xB. from what i have read, the 2012 will be the last year and, also from what i've read, they are not planning on making something to replace it (as of yet...)
so that's the other thing i'm wondering... get a 2012 xb or go to another company? i dig the nissan versa but they're not as appealing to me as the xb. i actually had a nissan versa sedan as a rental last week and it was so much fun to drive - reminded me a lot of the xb gen 1.. very light steering wheel, very nible, good handling...... but the versa sedan is like getting a toyota echo! dependable but YUCK in terms of style l0l |
Don't go nissan. Get a xb, scion is always in THE TOP for quality and dependability. If I am not mistaken we are number one according to consumer reports.
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I think that Scion has something planned to replace the xB or they will slowly die! In my opinion, the TC is the only Scion left that would generate sales. The new Subaru/Scion FS-R is getting into a price area where you have lots of choices with other car lines.
I believe there is something coming down the pike to replace the xB. |
Originally Posted by xbscion
(Post 4049967)
I think that Scion has something planned to replace the xB or they will slowly die! In my opinion, the TC is the only Scion left that would generate sales. The new Subaru/Scion FS-R is getting into a price area where you have lots of choices with other car lines.
I believe there is something coming down the pike to replace the xB. |
Thank you for the input, guys!
I am considering something for utility so the TC/FRS are totally out for me... besides, I think the FRS is very expensive for a scion but I am sure you get the performance/handling they are advertising... but it's not for me. I personally don't like the look of the KIA... i dig the nissan cube but it's too small on the inside. the xB is the perfect combo of size, price, features and reliability! i miss my 06 box so much bc it was incredible how reliable it was - something that mercedes could never match regardless of how smooth the ride is! I like the nissan versas (sedan and hatchback) so those are an option... i'm paying in all cash which scion dealers don't care about but if i walk into a nissan dealer, they will probably give me a nice chunk off the price of a versa.... so this is what im thinking... but again, i prefer the xb size..... but then again the versa gets better gas mileage.... (i was always fine with the 106hp of my 1st gen box, never complained about it! i want better mpg over performance) |
Go with the Kia Soul if you want something similar to the xB. Similar dimensions, looks better (2012+ models), more features, 6 speed transmissions, and better fuel economy.
My wife is in need of a new hauler soon and although she loves my xB, I wouldn't buy her a new one. Its outdated vs the competition. |
I for one love the 4-speed in the xB honestly... peppy and it doesn't hunt through gears endlessly. I hate touchy 6-speed transmissions. Five is a good compromise, but 6 is overkill...
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Originally Posted by Invertalon
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I for one love the 4-speed in the xB honestly... peppy and it doesn't hunt through gears endlessly. I hate touchy 6-speed transmissions. Five is a good compromise, but 6 is overkill...
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HMMMMMMMM.... i was about to order my 2012 xb this week until i saw this:
http://www.newscionxb.com/123-2nd-ge...9-2013-xb.html from the site: Team Scionhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png! Get ready for the arrival of the 2013 xB! It will feature a few exterior and interior tweaks along with the addition of a few new colors. It’s slated to arrive February 2013. Overview of the 2013 xBhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png changes: Exterior * Front lower grille painted gloss black * Rear bumper adds diffuser blackout * Front bumper adds LED accessory lamps Interior: * Center IP color change to bronze tone * Seat insert color change to bronze accents * AChttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png control dial adds chrome surrounds * Interior lamp autohttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png cut * Removal of rear door panel cup holders * Front map pocket shortened by 2 inches * Front floor mat hook shape change Color * Add: Absolutely Red (3P0) and Nautical Blue Metallic (8S6) * Delete: Stingray Metallic (8T4) and Elusive Blue Metallic (9AF) 2013 xBhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png Colors 040 Super White 1F7 Classic Silver Metallic 209 Black Sand Pearl 3R0 Sizzling Crimson Mica 4V0 Army Rock Metallic 3P0 Absolutely Red 8S6 Nautical Blue Met Images and pricing details will be disclosed shortly. so it looks like there will be a 2013.... in that case, im going to hold off on my order. interesting because i have found no other information on the internet! |
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