Gas Prices
#21
Originally Posted by ExplorHer
I think the government should step in due to price gouging.
It would ultimately screw up the supply and demand economics, employee wages and benefits, job security, and reduce or remove the corporate incentives to spend $$ for more efficient and/or increased production.
BTW, the U.S. gov't is already a big player in the price of gas:
Fuel taxes in the United States vary by state. For the first quarter of 2008, the average state gasoline tax is 28.6 cents per gallon, plus 18.4 cents per gallon federal tax making the total 47 cents per gallon.
#22
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
The rise of gas prices is inevitable, which will then lead to alternative power, which will result in rise in prices for electricity/hydrogen/nuclear power/whatever is next up on the list. THAT's what I was trying to get at.
And I had to change my sig because it was just waaay too long, lol.
Btw, don't sell the M3. . That's the kind of car that 20 years down the road will be worth more than it was new.
And I had to change my sig because it was just waaay too long, lol.
Btw, don't sell the M3. . That's the kind of car that 20 years down the road will be worth more than it was new.
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Originally Posted by ExplorHer
I think the government should step in due to price gouging.
It would ultimately screw up the supply and demand economics, employee wages and benefits, job security, and reduce or remove the corporate incentives to spend $$ for more efficient and/or increased production.
BTW, the U.S. gov't is already a big player in the price of gas:
Fuel taxes in the United States vary by state. For the first quarter of 2008, the average state gasoline tax is 28.6 cents per gallon, plus 18.4 cents per gallon federal tax making the total 47 cents per gallon.
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http://auto.howstuffworks.com/gas-price1.htm
Here is a good write up about where your $3.50 is going.
Also, the whole oil surplus thing doesn't bother me one bit at all. There's a lot more oil on this planet than we think, and someone HAS to create something that creates more energy than it uses within the next 50 years.
Think about this for a minute, a battery that can recharge itself, using its own battery power. THAT's the future.
Here is a good write up about where your $3.50 is going.
Also, the whole oil surplus thing doesn't bother me one bit at all. There's a lot more oil on this planet than we think, and someone HAS to create something that creates more energy than it uses within the next 50 years.
Think about this for a minute, a battery that can recharge itself, using its own battery power. THAT's the future.
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I read in AutoWeek that BMW has a hydogren-fueled car that actually CLEANS the air it consumes. Greenhouse gases from the atmosphere go in and water vapor comes out. If we could only find a non-fossil fuel intensive manner of making hydrogren fuel...
#25
My concern is really that gas prices in the next few years will hit $7 per gallon and I won't be able to drive as much. Also, I don't think it's fair to bash SUV's. There are a lot of families that actually do require a vehicle like that. Especially for family trips that involve towing. Before bashing the state and federal taxes from fuel, we should find out where that money goes first.
#26
Isn't it ironic! the price of a Hybrids offset any gas savings. Even our little cars max out at 30 MPG or so at best. 50, 60, 70 80, dollars it will take to fill soon. Your pretty much screwed unless you bike, rollerblade, walk etc. to get to work. the car will become a luxury item to low income, and only the rich will be able to drive the roads and will still waste gas in Hummers. big trucks and the like.
#27
Originally Posted by danos_XBox
Isn't it ironic! the price of a Hybrids offset any gas savings. Even our little cars max out at 30 MPG or so at best. 50, 60, 70 80, dollars it will take to fill soon. Your pretty much screwed unless you bike, rollerblade, walk etc. to get to work. the car will become a luxury item to low income, and only the rich will be able to drive the roads and will still waste gas in Hummers. big trucks and the like.
Anyways...gas will go up and becasue of our reliance on it, theres nothing we can do. But it's not really a big deal. Like what they said before, gas for us is cheap. We just have been spoiled for a while.
I'll raise a stink when it hits $7 this time next year.
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Dang !!!! I now think back when I was in high scool scrounging around trying to find "regular leaded" gas for my big block Ford. I thought 0.86 cent per gallon was bad. We are lied to every day by our wonderful govt., gas shortages.....BS !!!! I've been working in the pipeline industry for the last 13 years and busines is really, really good right now.
We need a drastic change in the system. Lets start by fixing AMERICA instead of trying to half-**** fix all these third world counties that hate us........
http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html
coming soon......... SUN LIGHT tax and the brand new FRESH AIR TAX.
We need a drastic change in the system. Lets start by fixing AMERICA instead of trying to half-**** fix all these third world counties that hate us........
http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html
coming soon......... SUN LIGHT tax and the brand new FRESH AIR TAX.
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Gas has never been as cheap here as you guys think is has. The cheapest is has ever been in this country, was back in 99 under Clinton (inflation factored in). Mostly due to how much the dollar was worth back then.
Orange, America is far from being fixed. Economically, we're f*cked. Morally, we're f*cked. Legally, we're f*cked. I'm glad I work for a global company.
Orange, America is far from being fixed. Economically, we're f*cked. Morally, we're f*cked. Legally, we're f*cked. I'm glad I work for a global company.
#33
Originally Posted by orangedonkey
Dang !!!! I now think back when I was in high scool scrounging around trying to find "regular leaded" gas for my big block Ford. I thought 0.86 cent per gallon was bad. We are lied to every day by our wonderful govt., gas shortages.....BS !!!! I've been working in the pipeline industry for the last 13 years and busines is really, really good right now.
We need a drastic change in the system. Lets start by fixing AMERICA instead of trying to half-**** fix all these third world counties that hate us........
http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html
coming soon......... SUN LIGHT tax and the brand new FRESH AIR TAX.
We need a drastic change in the system. Lets start by fixing AMERICA instead of trying to half-**** fix all these third world counties that hate us........
http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html
coming soon......... SUN LIGHT tax and the brand new FRESH AIR TAX.
#34
I don't like paying so much for gas, but the wife and I have a dual income with no kids so it doesn't hurt us much at all. Heck, the wife drives a company car (a Prius) and they pay for the gas so we are only paying for mine. My last fill up was two weeks ago today and I'm sitting at 330 miles driven. The wife drives us around on the weekends at the moment and she just got 58 mpg on her last fill up. I'll be driving more next week when my new XB comes in.
We're going to Florida for vacation in two weeks and I expect to put on 1500 miles with that trip alone. I expect to be spending $250-$300 on gas.
The ones that I'm concerned with are my family that work at the Ford Big Truck plant here in Louisville, KY. They might be dropping a complete shift of workers that will leave my brother, brother-in-law and uncle without a job. Their plant makes the F-250's, F-350's and such.
We're going to Florida for vacation in two weeks and I expect to put on 1500 miles with that trip alone. I expect to be spending $250-$300 on gas.
The ones that I'm concerned with are my family that work at the Ford Big Truck plant here in Louisville, KY. They might be dropping a complete shift of workers that will leave my brother, brother-in-law and uncle without a job. Their plant makes the F-250's, F-350's and such.
#35
With the way the prices at the pump fluctuate daily, there is no doubt that the price at the pump IS NOT related to the per barrel price of crude. It's just plain old greed on the part of the oil companies who are gouging the consumer.
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Originally Posted by BozzMan
With the way the prices at the pump fluctuate daily, there is no doubt that the price at the pump IS NOT related to the per barrel price of crude. It's just plain old greed on the part of the oil companies who are gouging the consumer.
[sarcasm]No, not related at all.[/sarcasm]
#37
The price or value of crude oil DOES affect the price of gas at the pump. When you sent out that link Carbon and the spreadsheets above, that's exactly what it is saying. The only question is, is there any type of price gouging going on. Right now, OPEC oversees this, but I don't think it's too far fetch to wonder why are oil companies making record profits when we are paying more to protect the consumer....
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Sorry, I guess my sarcasm in "No, not related at all." wasn't thick enough, lol.
There, how's that?
There, how's that?
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I figured it was enough before, since I quoted the guy, then proved him wrong, then said he was right. I guess I forgot that sarcasm doesn't work too well on the internet . I'm gonna add that movie to my blockbuster queue. I should make my friend watch it, because we got into a heated debate (well, he resorted to screaming and yelling to not allow me to get points in) about the war. He's a complete bigot about the topic and thinks we should stay in Iraq, but not to liberate, he thinks this war is good because we're killing 'terrorists'. Dumbass still supports Bush...Lol, he even tried to blame our current recession on Bill Clinton, then contradicted himself by saying the economy lags 4 years behind.
I figured it was enough before, since I quoted the guy, then proved him wrong, then said he was right. I guess I forgot that sarcasm doesn't work too well on the internet . I'm gonna add that movie to my blockbuster queue. I should make my friend watch it, because we got into a heated debate (well, he resorted to screaming and yelling to not allow me to get points in) about the war. He's a complete bigot about the topic and thinks we should stay in Iraq, but not to liberate, he thinks this war is good because we're killing 'terrorists'. Dumbass still supports Bush...Lol, he even tried to blame our current recession on Bill Clinton, then contradicted himself by saying the economy lags 4 years behind.