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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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I have to disagree with you "YourNameHere." I believe (as many have posted) the replacement for the xB will be outfitted with the 2.4 liter out of the tC. That means lots of extra weight in the front end and chassis in general. In addition new buyers will be blessed with relatively poor gas mileage.

If it looks good though, I am sure the wife will be trading in her '05. She is definitely interested in getting a little more power.
Old Aug 11, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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i have to disagree with everyone on this forum. toyota has already said their will be absolutely no changes to the exterior, interior or drivetrain of the XBs. there won't be any changes at all.

(still hoping for telescopic steering wheel though - it's hard to reach as it is now)
Old Aug 11, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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I think that "your name here" is incorrect in saying that nobody bought an xb based on performance.

I believe it "performs" well to my needs in the area of MPG. That was a big reason I bought it. It out performed alot of cars in that category when I was looking to buy a new car.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Archngl
I think that "your name here" is incorrect in saying that nobody bought an xb based on performance.

I believe it "performs" well to my needs in the area of MPG. That was a big reason I bought it. It out performed alot of cars in that category when I was looking to buy a new car.
Well for me it was the over all apperance and not performance. My decision went as follows: Looks, interior space, price- cheaper than the Element that i was going for, customizing, and than performance. The ability to customize, I knew would make it more popular. It is something that other makers fail to realize. Giving consumers the ability to make a car their own is better than making a car for what you believe we would like. I think that was an overall reason for the success of Scion. Everyone is trying hard to jump on the bandwagon, and so far they haven't come close. Thank you Scion - keep it up. You are my brand.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mec_os
i have to disagree with everyone on this forum. toyota has already said their will be absolutely no changes to the exterior, interior or drivetrain of the XBs. there won't be any changes at all.

(still hoping for telescopic steering wheel though - it's hard to reach as it is now)
The title of this thread says 2007 but everyone is talking about the 2008 model.

Toyota hasn't said anything one way or another about the 2007 model. There isn't even going to be a 2007. The 2006 will carryover until the 2008 is released this spring.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mec_os
i have to disagree with everyone on this forum. toyota has already said their will be absolutely no changes to the exterior, interior or drivetrain of the XBs. there won't be any changes at all.

(still hoping for telescopic steering wheel though - it's hard to reach as it is now)
The title of this thread says 2007 but everyone is talking about the 2008 model.

Toyota hasn't said anything one way or another about the 2007 model. There isn't even going to be a 2007. The 2006 will carryover until the 2008 is released this spring.
My bad, but you know what? No ofense Please! If this is about 07 than it doesn't need to be in the second generation post, cause 06 will carry over into 07 until new one comes out and technically 07 doesn't make it second generation. That is my two cents worth, now can I get some gummy bears please.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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My bad, but you know what? No ofense Please! If this is about 07 than it doesn't need to be in the second generation post, cause 06 will carry over into 07 until new one comes out and technically 07 doesn't make it second generation. That is my two cents worth, now can I get some gummy bears please.[/quote]

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not complaining about people talking about the second gen. model. I was trying to explain to that guy because I don't think he realized we were discussing the 08 and not the "07".

Now give me those gummi bears.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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Lonestar, I got you, it's cool, yeah you tell him dude.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by YourNameHere
I dont think there will be a big jump in performance. The 1.8l from the matrix will be in the next xB, not the 2.4l. They need a gap between the xB and the tC. I think the proof that we are getting a bigger engine is pretty obvious. If we were getting the 1.5l they would have just sent the new bB over here. Since they didn’t, we must be getting a totally unique model, and I think the 1.8l is the only logical choice. They sent us the xB and xA because it was the cheapest way to get cars here. They didn’t know if Scion would succeed so they didnt want to put millions into developing new models. Toyota has seen that they can sell cars on styling alone. (cause none of us bought the xB cause of its performance). I think they will continue this trend. Hopefully they stay true to the appearance that makes the xB so popular. And a few more ponys wouldn’t hurt hehe
I agree with you.

I like the comment about "performance" when everyone knows when someone says that, they DON'T mean MPG.

Also, why would you stick a 2.4L in an xB? The 1.8L makes sense. It's very economical, lightweight, and has PERFORMANCE advantages over the 1.5L.

I could be wrong, but then again I'm not making absolute statements like other members here, saying there WILL be anything in particular. Unless of course someone has some extreme insider information. :]
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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1.8L will be put in the new short 4 door hatch. The 2.4L will be put into the new tall CUV. Stated and done.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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CUV....compact utility vehicle?
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YUP. Technically, the Matrix is called a CUV, and the xB is called a SUV. Check it out in your weight sticker, says SUV.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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I work in the parts dept. at a Scion Dealership and Ive heard speculation also from within the dealership that the new xB will be a 2.4L. Im just the low man on the totem poll but who knows whats true and whats false.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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The 1.8 makes perfect sense for the next xB. It gets great mileage and would smoke the 1.5 without any problem at all. The only thing about the 2.4 would be to compete, pricewise, with more value packed cars like the new Rabbit. The 2.4 would put it at 15K or above and right in the range of more powerful options. I would hate to see the 2.4 in the xB but they may force the market to choose performance (xB) or economy (xA).
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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just wanna throw this out there, the chances of them bringing a model that's already out somewhere else (japan, europe) is very slim. the tC was the first "true" scion. they made it specifically for this market. no other market has it. the xA and xB should be the same. something made specifically for this market.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RH_TuningIsLife
YUP. Technically, the Matrix is called a CUV, and the xB is called a SUV. Check it out in your weight sticker, says SUV.
According to the window sticker, the EPA classifies the xB as a "small wagon", and it insures as a compact car.
Old Aug 13, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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The new BB gives me the creeps so I hope the next xA and xB are original.

Not for the shocker . . . I like the Aygo! I don't think even Canada has it. If it's smaller than the xA/Yaris, it may be deemed too small for us hulking Amuhricans. Would like to see one in 3D, though. That 61mpg will be very attractive a year from now at $4.00/gallon!

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Originally Posted by JUMBO
Originally Posted by RH_TuningIsLife
YUP. Technically, the Matrix is called a CUV, and the xB is called a SUV. Check it out in your weight sticker, says SUV.
According to the window sticker, the EPA classifies the xB as a "small wagon", and it insures as a compact car.
Yea, but open the door and check the Gross Vehicle Weight sticker also a 6200/6201 is label Scion xB SUV.


Word down the line is that they are not bringing anything into the market that already exist. They are not "redesigning" the xA and xB, They are coming out with two new models, one being closely based on the t2b including the 2.4L motor. It will not be called the bB, for that would defeat the purpose the JDM people such as my self enjoy. It will have an entirely new designation.
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^^^he's right.
Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RH_TuningIsLife
YUP. Technically, the Matrix is called a CUV, and the xB is called a SUV. Check it out in your weight sticker, says SUV.
Guess it depends... MINE says "MPV" on it's federal "B" pillar ID plate, not "SUV."

Here's the 'proof pic.'



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