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Phobic 03-13-2012 12:51 PM

flipping top hats for a gen 2 bagged setup?
 
Has anyone done this to get more low? I can't find any threads that really go into a how to on what to do to get this done and get more low, I just know if you flip the top hats you can get more low in the front.

any help would be appreciated.

xseveredveganx 03-13-2012 04:09 PM

I'd be afraid of doing so because I think the bag would end up sitting on the strut tower. You don't want that. Look at the spherical bearing top hats that Randode has. They're a little spendy, but they'll get you lower. Could even hit up KSport for their adjustable pillowball mounts. I'm just not sure if the stock strut will fit the ID of their bearing.

Phobic 03-13-2012 09:24 PM

If I left part of the bump stops in it shouldnt sit on the strut tower though, or at least I wouldnt think it would. Maybe someone who has done this could give me some insight?

also, I was looking at those from Randode, they're pretty pricey IMO but that might be an option.

xseveredveganx 03-13-2012 09:47 PM

They are very pricey, and I don't know why. Spherical bearings with cups aren't really that expensive. If you could get a hold of someone with a waterjet or CNC plasma table, you could get some stuff cut for yourself.

masterbB 03-13-2012 10:01 PM

my mechanic has been wanting to do this for a while, just haven't really had the time to mess with it. ill let you know if we make any progress on getting the front lower without spending an arm and a leg

Phobic 03-14-2012 12:37 PM

thanks man

2012lavabox 03-20-2012 08:02 AM

what air ride kit did you end up going with phobic?

Phobic 03-20-2012 01:02 PM

I got the kit from 2zero6 factory. has the Tokico front struts with AccuAir bags all around. The rears are a bit higher than fronts, which Im going to cut the rear mounts or get new ones to go lower in the rear.

I still need to cut the bump stops out of the front, but I haven't been able to get a straight answer from anyone running the kit as to whether or not the fronts need bump stops. If I get rid of them I'll be able to drop the front at least another half inch if not more.

dragit 03-20-2012 02:42 PM

I don't run bump stops on my front air struts

Phobic 03-20-2012 04:52 PM

do you have the easy street kit or the same kit I have? Im just worried about the air bag hitting the strut tower/top hat and busting the bag.

dragit 03-20-2012 06:21 PM

I used factory struts with the universal mounts, uas bags. Mine goes mount,bag,mount, bearing, top hat.

churroz 03-20-2012 06:41 PM

any pics phobic? i just ordered the same kit

Phobic 03-21-2012 12:48 PM

thanks Dragit, my setup is mount, bag, mount bump stop, bearing. so I'll try to get time this weekend to cut the bump stops out and that will most likely bring me to where I want to be.

churroz, yeah here you go man. It's an awesome kit, not a single bad part or part missing.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._4458704_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...53777016_n.jpg

and here is a pic of the front strut setup, kinda crappy pic:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...74942485_n.jpg

churroz 03-21-2012 02:32 PM

thanks for the pics! car looks goood

2012lavabox 03-21-2012 06:44 PM

i dont know whether to go with this kit, or have a set of front struts modified to get the lowest. I talked to guy at a custom fab shop and he said he has done a couple sets of front struts and his rear mounts. I have seen one car he did with 20s and its pretty low. Well, it will be couple months or at least til the wife goes back to work.

Phobic 03-21-2012 06:47 PM

Id love some custom front struts for max low, but this is good for now. Im sure once I get rid of the bump stops they'll be much lower.

lefty29er 03-21-2012 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by 2012lavabox (Post 3990699)
i dont know whether to go with this kit, or have a set of front struts modified to get the lowest. I talked to guy at a custom fab shop and he said he has done a couple sets of front struts and his rear mounts. I have seen one car he did with 20s and its pretty low. Well, it will be couple months or at least til the wife goes back to work.

I bought this same kit and had the fronts re~worked, so, when I get it installed I think I will be sitting on the nuts... Hoping:ponder:

2012lavabox 03-22-2012 07:08 AM

i checked on getting his front struts and rear mounts, but planned on running nitrogen tank and all valves inside car. I am hoping wife starts back to work soon, cause this will be my next mod, :)

churroz 03-27-2012 12:25 AM

i forgot to ask, what are your thoughts on the ride quality?

Phobic 03-27-2012 12:49 PM

its awesome. I ride about 60 in the fronts and 20 in the back and its awesome. not super low while riding, but I can turn and its a comfy ride so I don't care.


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