Bashing or not, he's right. To recap this thread

xD owners : We want performance parts
Performance company : We need a deposit to ensure interest
xD owners : Too much money, go away
xD owners : We want performance parts

 

^^ We never told them to go away, or that it was too expensive. We are just trying to get a good idea of what they have to offer. I've heard of Jackson Racing for Honda and I've heard of Jim Wolf for Nissan. If you set aside that most of us are not that familiar with this company, you still have the issue of setting aside $2000 for something not realized. This kit would be beneficial to both parties, this would be the first and only kit available for the XD, people are going to buy it if they want to be turbo charged. It would be the first kit for the new motor (2zr-fe) that's in the XD, Corolla, Matrix, and Vibe. The only variant would be piping. I don't doubt that sooner or later there will be a kit for this application, this car and motor are both still very young.
As for those that don't have this car and/or have nothing intuitive to say, please quit posting and find a hobby. Go out in public a seek attention, post somewhere else, whatever you need to do to get by. Just don't sit there and try to be the minister of hate and discontent. It would be nice if this thread was just short and informative.

 

Maybe you didn't say it was too expensive, but a couple people in here have said that $4k is way too much for a turbo kit, regardless of how reliable/efficient it will be.
As for PTuning, go venture over the tC boards for a second and you'll see threads flooded with things about them.
http://ptuningscion.com/

 

this thread is so stupid, and this is why aftermarket companies prefered making things for the fit then the xd. its sad too bc i want an xd.

 

what was stated was that $4k would be a lot of money if the gains are minimal... and there is nothing to show for gains because nothing has been built yet. its not a matter of quality so much as it is committing to something where the gains are unknown. if we drop $2k each to develop a kit, and the gains are only 50hp for whatever reason, welp, were SOL.

and who was that other company with a tC turbo kit that went under and took everyones money after they had paid...

 

the fit aka the jazz has been atleast 1 step higher then the xd aka toyota ist. before it even made it to america. honda has been having aftermarket support since the beginning . hasport ,skunk ,hondata. list goes on and on.

 

has anyone reasearched to see if the JDM ist has any turbo support in japan? might help you guys find out how much power a bolt on kit can produce, or research any turbo kits for your particular engine anywhere in the world, just sayin

i think tuning will be the biggest issue here, with the tc ecu it took a while for a good form of tuning to come by...

 

It wasnt a company (turbo toyotas right?) ... just a guy in his garage trying to make kits on order then got over his head and went down. Ptuning is a ACTUAL company with a facility and full crew. I would never put them in even the
category..... I know im not a XD owner just giving my 2cents.

 

The JDM IST comes with the 1NZ-FE engine.

 

lol i knew i ignored this thread for a reason.

some of u tC guys are funny. I guess I should go about making assumptions "like you guys had your mommies and daddies pay for ur car so I'm sure u all have 4g sitting around in ur bank accounts." annoying right?

xD has no support because unlike the fit/civic, they did not have companies producing parts before it was even released. the civic si had a turbo kit already when it was relased here. our motor in japan is sold as an automatic for the most part which kills any interest in their tuning shops. Japan is not the solution cause otherwise it would be the case with the fit/civic having parts already available. Europe is not a solution because several countries have very strict emissions including aftermarket parts. Results for this engine and model rely on us

I already offered a possible solution for the down payment but it fell on deaf ears. I think the best solution at this point for both parties (PTuning and xD owners) would be to start developing cheaper parts such as the proposed intake manifold and headers from dynatek to build trust amongst the 2 parties and go from there. Just my opinion but it will probably fall on deaf ears again

 

Well I have offered up my xD for the RandD, its in PTunings and the xD owners hands at this point. Lets go guys, this is a great company and you know they will come through. Almost every xD owner on here would love a kit for thier car.

 

actually the jdm ist comes in 2 models ncp110 wich is the awd model 1.5 liter and the zsp110 which is the 1.8 fwd model... ive done tons of research and blitz supposodly has a kit for the 1.5 but im assuming its just a modified xb/xa kit.... the jdm market is slowly making parts... the fact that we are in a recession and the jdm ist came out almost a year after it was released in the us.... i really wish i could get my hands on a 1.3 diesel motor out of the xd in europe : (

the xd motor has been turbo'd in puerto rico guy was seeing 220 whp but blew the motor due to insufficient engine management... so the motor can def be a beast....

 

only problem is its like going on a blind date... the fact that we cannot see or have proof of solid numbers is kinda a killjoy..... i mean if they did a prototype kit and went from there after they set a price and had it tuned and gave number im sure there would be more interest... cost isnt really and issue here the hardest part will be making a solid manifold and then engine management....

 

Yea It is like a blind date, but I know it will be worth it. Face it, our car is a slow eco-box. This vehicle needs something big like a turbo kit to give it some go. It would be nice to "keep up" with some of the other stock vehicles on the road. Ex. civic si, etc.

 

If you want numbers, do the math. Map out a turbo, calculate the CFMs for a given boost level, calculate the necessary fuel and you'll get your numbers. The formulas are out there.

If I had to take a wild guess at the output, I'd expect to see 170-200whp with a reliable setup. ~185whp in something that's only about 2600lbs is pretty beast. That's into 350z, S2000, and MS3 range.

 

I would not mind having a car that could keep up with stock 350zs and s2000s. Beast is about right for a car this weight. I mean stock this car prolly has 105ish wheel hp, so bumping it to aorund 175-185 would be amazing.

 

I tried once for the benefit of xD owners and failed...I already offered my car for R&D (Not Ptuning) and was out my car for 3 months...What I got back was an unfinished project and a box full of parts...Not saying PTuning would do this but I for one am not in the position to be able to this again...Someone else needs to step up and bite the bullet so that we (xD) owners can finally get what we deserve...I truly think that with the right turbo AND tuning, our cars could come close to that 200 whp mark and safely run it without any further mods...

 

i guess what im just upset about is that there is a great opportunity to further the xd community which is what yall are asking for yet, no one wants to stup up to the plate to do so. I may not have an XD but i would love to see an XD turbo or even smash a Tc

 

I am more than willing to step up and offer my xD for this project. I emailed PTuning yesterday, so its up to them and the xD owners now. I have a winter beater so its not a big deal to give up my ride for a while. Lets see how far this goes. But I know PTuning will have nothing to do with my xD until they get some other owners to show full interest and eventual purchase.

 

well there were me and another who been volunteering but yea nothing is gonna get accomplished till 10 ppl are in.