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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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For those that do not know, Your start position on the key does not have to be held in start position till the engine starts. Just a tap till the starter turns and it will continue till the engine starts. Even if you let the key go back to the on position. That's why a "Pust-To-Start" button works on the XD. It keeps turning till the engine starts. If the engine has a hard start and does not fire up, just turn the key to OFF and the starter will stop turning.
Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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reeeheeeheeeeeaaaaalllly. i did not know this. i have a tc so i imagine its the same, will try on next start up.
Old Nov 23, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by alaskanpeas
reeeheeeheeeeeaaaaalllly. i did not know this. i have a tc so i imagine its the same, will try on next start up.
absolutely incorrect. at least on the 2005... but different engine, different ECU, different programs.

while that is a neat little creature comfort, at least the tC has auto up/down for both the driver and passenger side windows. i think that should be standard on ALL CARS!
Old Nov 23, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
absolutely incorrect. at least on the 2005... but different engine, different ECU, different programs.

while that is a neat little creature comfort, at least the tC has auto up/down for both the driver and passenger side windows. i think that should be standard on ALL CARS!

amen to that
Old Nov 23, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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GM cars also have this feature
Old Nov 23, 2009 | 02:23 AM
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This doesn't work on the 05s at least.. Unless mine came defective with a manually-hold-the-key-in-start-for-the-full-duration-to-start-the-car starter. FML
Old Nov 23, 2009 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
the tC has auto up/down for both the driver and passenger side windows. i think that should be standard on ALL CARS!
The '08-'10 xB has auto down only, they couldn't have just thrown in the auto up?
Old Nov 23, 2009 | 02:32 AM
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i still have problems with that feature not working sometimes. if its cold and i dont hold it in the start position the first time i attempt it, the car will die. if i try it again, it usually works. but if the motor isnt warmed up, i have to hold the key in the start position.
Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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I already installed mine more than a year ago. The button is from Pivot Racing, I cut the black wire from the IGN sw and tied it to one terminal of the start button. The other one went to a "hot with key on" line at the fuse block and I think it was a pink wire. I also made the illuminating blink with the key on and extinguish when the motor was running. I used the hole thingie on the right side of the steering column, and it's convenient there coz I turn the key on and poke the button. By the time I get my seatbelt on, the engine is already started. Here's what it looks like:

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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 03:53 AM
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and this is why i question push-button starters... whats the point? you still have to turn the key - why not just turn it a little further? i can understand remote start, but push-button starts, to me, are up there with the most useless modifications to do.
Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pickledchang
and this is why i question push-button starters... whats the point? you still have to turn the key - why not just turn it a little further? i can understand remote start, but push-button starts, to me, are up there with the most useless modifications to do.
Don't factory push button starts only require the key be within the vehicle, and not in the ignition?
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Originally Posted by pickledchang
and this is why i question push-button starters... whats the point? you still have to turn the key - why not just turn it a little further? i can understand remote start, but push-button starts, to me, are up there with the most useless modifications to do.
because most cars equipped with push button start from the factory have a smart key that detects the key in your pocket without you having to actually take it out of your pocket and put it in the ignition and turn it. you would be able to just walk up to the car, the car detects the key and automatically unlocks the driver-side door, you get in, press the brake pedal and/or the clutch pedal, and press the start/stop button, and the car starts.

on cars that have push button ignition retrofitted to the car, they still have to turn the key in the ignition column to turn the car on. so yeah, it makes less sense.

on my dad's 2003 porsche cayenne s, you get a plastic key replica that you leave in the ignition slot, and carry the key fob around with you. so you walk up to the car, the door unlocks automatically, you then turn the plastic key in the ignition to start the car. so it is nearly as convenient as push button starts sense you don't have to go through your pocket for the keys to the car.

but i have to say, one trend i HATE about german cars is their completely abiguous symbols on the remote to lock and unlock the doors with the remote keyless entry. all they need is a symbol of a closed lock, and an open lock, and a picture of a car with the trunk open.
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but i have to say, one trend i HATE about german cars is their completely abiguous symbols on the remote to lock and unlock the doors with the remote keyless entry. all they need is a symbol of a closed lock, and an open lock, and a picture of a car with the trunk open.
My VW Golf had easy-to-understand symbols... but my Sprinter (Mercedes) has a horrible locking system, both the remote and the button on the dash. Not to mention that you have to be within 10 feet for the remote to work... and that was the same when the remote batteries were fresh.
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yeah, specifically, i have been annoyed by BMW, mini, and land rover key fobs.
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push start on an xD?

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who turns a key anymore?

(yes, my cruise control has been relocated off the wheel and yes my cluster trim is painted black.)
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Luci how did you get yours to work as a push only start to use WITHOUT turning the key...I love what you have done...

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Originally Posted by bwhite
I already installed mine more than a year ago. The button is from Pivot Racing, I cut the black wire from the IGN sw and tied it to one terminal of the start button. The other one went to a "hot with key on" line at the fuse block and I think it was a pink wire. I also made the illuminating blink with the key on and extinguish when the motor was running. I used the hole thingie on the right side of the steering column, and it's convenient there coz I turn the key on and poke the button. By the time I get my seatbelt on, the engine is already started. Here's what it looks like:

can we get a pic of the fuse box/wiring?
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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this is true, had some cold mornings, and decided to try it. just gave a quick flick, and let the key back to it's resting position, and it cranked for about a second more before starting. sweet!!!
Old Dec 18, 2009 | 02:59 AM
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our car has this feature cuz it's offered with a transponder "key" in Japan.
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i got myself into a bad habit now, i get in my car and just "throw and let go" of the key. if i ever drive another car, it's gonna feel weird having to hold it forward



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