Im in the market for a new car, wanted something more luxurious but figured I would take a glance at the xD. Everything looked good, 1.8L engine, started thinking Tanabe Coils, some 19's, suede interior, fiberglass work... until I read that it comes with rear drum brakes. Cmon, its 2007 almost 08. Why cant Scion just put some real brakes on the back of the car? It really turned me off. Not saying the xD is a bad car because of it, I actually think its a good clean slate for modding but Im being very picky with my next car purchase. Dont think the xD is in my future now. Im holding out for the 09 TSX redesign. Maybe Scion will drop some info on the new tC by then so I can have another option.

 

well lug pattern is the same as the tC, I bet the tC's rear brake system could get swapped in...

 

drum brakes might not be high tech, but stopping distance is what matters to me... 60-0 in 120 ft is pretty acceptable in my book. besides, have you looked under the car? everything is in the front... where the disc brakes are.

the xB has disc brakes in the back, but it also isn't scions entry-level. i'll keep the disc brakes if it means the scion can come standard with side/curtain airbags, braking systems most cars cant understand, and optional stability control on a "cheap" car.

 

...Last I checked, plenty of cars in this price range (and even some more expensive cars) still use rear drum brakes, too. As long as the car stops within an acceptable distance, what do you have to complain about?

 

some people dont like the feel of them, i can understand that to a limit, but i drive my xA daily without complaints. it kind of bothers me that my 300ZX takes quite a while longer to stop, actually. Check braking distances, you might find it a bit funny that the Corvetta and xA stop within 2 feet of each other (according to Edmunds testing).

 

They can't put cool colored calipers on drum brakes!

 

Sure u can. Just paint them like everybody else. Not hard at all. Just have to mask it off and spray.

 

Drums gotta stay black. Painted drums are uncool.

 

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

 

All depends on personal prefrence. I think they look decent but calipers are better. With the right theme it can look good. One of the guys in my club has painted his red and they look good.

 

I've seen them red. Screams FnF. Silver is half-way there, but still FnF-ish.

 

painted drums =

 

^^Indeed.

 

WOW, there are car snobs, and then there are CAR SNOBS. That's really your top priority? Really?

Didn't we have this same absurd conversation on the xB2 boards?

 

what conversation? I stated my opinion, and I even said the xD was a very nice car but I need to make sure the next car I buy stays since switching cars every 18 months is not financially smart.

I dont like the fact that it comes with rear drums. Your obviously fine with it as I was when I bought the xB since xB1 has drums. Not being a snob or anything, Im trying to choose the best car possible. I loved the xD but the rear drums turned me off.

For instance, go on the Scion website. All the pictures shown of the pimped xD's are with rotor/caliper brakes. Says something doesnt it? They know a car is more visually appealing with a slotted rotor than a rusty drum. Even the xA shown has slotted rotors...

 

MAN YOU JUST DONT KNOW HOW MUCH I FEEL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I DRIVE A GEN 1 XB AND ITS REDICULOUS HOW MUCH WE THE GEN 1 XB DRIVERS WANTED REAR DISC BRAKES AND DID SO MUCH COMPLAINING FOR THEM AND THEN SCION GOES AND PUTS REAR DRUMS ON SOMETHING THAT HAD AS HIGH EXPECTATIONS AS THE XB. I JUST HOPE SOME ONE IN THE AFTERMARKET WAS LISTENING TO THE XB DRIVERS AND SEE THE IDEA FIT FOR THE XD. I JUST KNEW I WAS GOING TO TRADE MY GEN 1 IN FOR IT. BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. I WONDER IF THE TC REAR DISC WOULD FIT

 

I've got to agree. Look at a Mazda 3i. Four wheel disk and independant suspension all the way around and don't mention msrp because you can get them at invoice with no fees whatsoever. Toyota ought to be ashamed to put out a car with rear drum brakes in 2007.
Not even a freaking option.

 

swap in the tc. or xrs matrix/corolla rear brakes.

luckily you have some easy options!

 

you have got to be kidding me, people.... come on. none of you have said anything about brake feel or performance, the only reason you want calipers in the back is to look cool??? i know the whole personalization thing is a big seller for the xDs, but i just don't see the big deal!! OMGOMGWTF my brakes don't match in the back!!

NOT getting an xD for this reason is down-right stupid, IMHO. That is, unless you race, and in that instance, wtf are you looking at an xd?


jesus... "i cant paint my rear drums so im getting another car".... just, wow... i say save some money, go find a used civic and have fun with the rice.

 

^^^ Thank you.