Is there a way to turn it off permanently? I've noticed that if I push the button to turn it off it comes back on after 30 mph so now i have to turn it back of anytime I slow down to under 30. I'd just rather have it off. For me traction control on this car is more of a hindrance than anything good. Makes me miss my 2008 xD that didn't have the option. Lol thanks guys!!!

 

How is it a hindrance? It only comes into use during startup/acceleration in slippery conditions.
Typically the off button gets used when you need it shut off to get a car unstuck from snow.

 

Because starting in snow and ice it doesn't really want to go anywhere and takes forever. When I can turn it off and move alot easier with less issues. Regardless the reason I want it turned off hence me asking for information

 

talk to a dealer.

 

You can do what another guy here did: unplug one of the ABS sensors. Do a search, his xD ended up skidding off the road and landing on it's roof in the snow.

 

I spun out in the rain and crashed my xD with 800 miles on it. TC woulda been nice to have.

 

lmao! so you guys are really convinced that if i take the traction control off i will end up spinning out and crashing and flipping it and being stuck on my roof? man aint that ashamed....and by the way this is my first car with traction control. none of my previous cars had traction control and i did just fine with out it and never had any issues with spinning or flipping....

 

well, the road conditions and off camber turns didn;t help my situation really. But the car got evil on me quick. No traction is crazy fun in the snow. xD will slide all day long

 

Be happy you have it. Crashed my D in snow last year. It is a bobsled in snow.

 

Keep us posted if you get a way to switch it off. I don't care for VSC myself, for others it's a selling point.

 

well i looked more into turning it off, and there are 2 fuses that i could take out to disable it, unfortunately in doing that i would be disabling the abs. i like abs so that idea wont do. to bad they didnt make it to where if you push the button it stays off till the next time you turn your car on. oh and for the people talking about crashin their cars, if im bound to crash my car its probably going to happen with or without traction control lol

 

ok so im an idiot and yeah to turn the traction control off just hold the button down for a few seconds. thanks for the help!!!!

 

only when parked. you push it to turn off the traction. to turn off the VSC, hold it for several seconds, and a second icon will come on saying that both trac and VSC are off.


but only when parked or stopped. you CANNOT do it on the fly.

 

VSC saves more lives than seat belts. That's a fact, and that's why it is mandatory on all cars and light trucks now.

 

I don't understand the hatred for VSC. It doesn't do ANYTHING unless the yaw sensor detects that you are moving in a direction contrary to steering wheel input. Otherwise it has zero effect on your day to day driving. TRAC is also in play, and that simply reduces engine output when you have wheel spin at LOW speeds.

 

Honestly I cannot speak on driving in the snow but if you cannot control this car in the rain then you have issues. The xD is a breeze to drive in almost all weather conditions. My 2009 xD does not have VSC or TC ana I have never had an issue with daily driving.

 

what he said

 

It's not there for every day driving. It is there for the one time you need it. I haven't needed my seat belt in the two years I've had my xD... but I don't go ripping them out just because it is a pain to put it on and take it off. I realize that it is there for a reason. In an accident, I do not have the strength to hold myself safely in place... and neither does anyone else. Same with VSC (or any stability control system) -- it does something that NO driver can do: It detects unintended rotation and brakes ONE wheel in order to bring the car back into alignment. This is for that one time that a deer jumps out in front of you and you swerve hard... or when a car suddenly merges into your lane... or there is an unexpected patch of ice... or whatever. You might be the best defensive driver out there... but there are things that are out of your control and there are things that you simply cannot do with your car, such as pulsing the brakes as fast as an ABS system or braking one single wheel to rotate the car back into the direction of travel.

Many of you are too young to remember, but I grew up driving rear wheel drive cars with no ABS, no traction control, no airbags, nothing... and let me tell you, there are many people alive today who have these things to thank. These aren't just "bad drivers" either. Again, these things (just like seat belts) are not needed every day, or even every year... heck, you may never have a need for them... but they are there for that one time that you might need them.

It is estimated that stability control (VSC) is saving 10,000 lives per year. That doesn't even touch the number of non-lethal accidents it is preventing.

Everyone who thinks they are a perfect driver and can avoid all accidents should just unbuckle their seat belts... no need to wrinkle your shirt, right?

 

Some stability control systems are good, specifically the ones in expensive cars(BMW, audi, and ferrari come to mind), because they are tuned incredibly well and allow you to get to the limit of grip. Some have different settings that will even allow you to get a little rotation going. A good example of this is the mazda3's version which did not have an effect on inside line's slalom test. On the other hand we have toyota who's VSC cuts in sharply and takes all of the fun out of driving. Add to this the fact that YOU CAN'T TURN IT OFF and any dreams of auto-x or track days are gone.

As for the safety aspect, most of the situations where stability control saves you can be avoided. You are either going too fast around a corner or don't know what you're doing(because drivers ed here sucks). In sweden drivers ed involves a skid pad, I wonder if they have these problems.

 

A seat belt is a device that is used to help an individual survive (along with air bags and crumple zones) a crash and is really not related to preventive safety devices such as the ABS, TC, and VSC. If you gonna make an arrangement at least do it correctly, by your logic it sounds like we don't even need tempered glass on the windows.