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CXTKRS1 10-06-2011 04:03 PM

What changes would you like to see made to the xD?
 
The car is approaching the five year mark so a refresh should be coming down the pipe in a year or so. What changes would you like to see done to the xD so it can keep up with the competition? These so changes have to be reasonable and will keep the xD in the same price range it is currently in...so no 250HP turbo charged ideas.

3. For me I would love to see the xD lighten up a bit by either making it a coupe or use a third hidden door like the RX8 and Velostar uses.

2. Increased power output, nothing crazy but add DI or some tuning tricks to give the car say an extra ten extra HP.

1. The most important upgrade IMO has to be the six speed auto/manual. Almost all of the xD's competition has a six speed transmission.

xD_kidd91 10-06-2011 06:01 PM

I say. 4 door hatch should stay like that.

160 hp

6spd

160 top end.

Plenty of potential

Like a 2zz ... but more torque

DaReal 10-06-2011 06:37 PM

In reality I see it DISCONTINUED just like the xA was when the xD replaced it. Scion makes it's most money with xB's and tC's anyway. I rarely even see an xD yet alone one even hooked up.

Besides all their attention will be focused on pushing the 2nd Gen tC more as well as the iQ, and FR-S this coming year.

ThisorThatxD 10-06-2011 06:39 PM

1. more room in the engine bay
2. trd options would be nice
3. another dome light in the back. that tiny light back there doesnt cut it for me
4. oem sub option and rear speakers that actually work >_>
5. who doesnt want moar power? modest obviously since the mpg is a big plus.
6. seat height adjustments lol. lumbar support would be great too.

all i can think of right now. never had a 6 spd. 5 seems to get me around fine, and with the traffic here its about as high as needed.

ThisorThatxD 10-06-2011 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by DaReal (Post 3920739)
In reality I see it DISCONTINUED just like the xA was when the xD replaced it. Scion makes it's most money with xB's and tC's anyway. I rarely even see an xD yet alone one even hooked up.

all cars get discontinued. its already got a rs too so we know its still being made for another year. the better question would be what on earth could be the next evolution.

xA

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...37076.1-lg.jpg

to xD

http://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/pi...60-300x189.jpg

to ???

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive...ko-Coupe-1.jpg

:nails:

mikem53 10-07-2011 12:35 AM

not too realistic.. 160 top end? thats ridiculous.. in an econobox..?
even if it had the power to go that fast.. doesnt mean it should.. takes more than power to go fast.. if you want to do it with control..


Originally Posted by xD_kidd91 (Post 3920714)
I say. 4 door hatch should stay like that.

160 hp

6spd

160 top end.

Plenty of potential

Like a 2zz ... but more torque


mikem53 10-07-2011 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by ThisorThatxD (Post 3920746)
all cars get discontinued. its already got a rs too so we know its still being made for another year. the better question would be what on earth could be the next evolution.


:nails:


Not popular ones , the ones that sell.. Corvette going on 60 years, Mustang 50+. scion xD.... not long for this world..

Nateson 10-07-2011 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by mikem53 (Post 3920925)
Not popular ones , the ones that sell.. Corvette going on 60 years, Mustang 50+. scion xD.... not long for this world..

Only their names are carried from each model. Mustangs and Corvettes have changed numerous times. I like my little hatchback Corolla (basically), and I doubt they'll halt it's production anytime soon. It would be nice if it had a LSD, weighed less, and had taller highway gears.

xD_kidd91 10-07-2011 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by mikem53 (Post 3920920)
not too realistic.. 160 top end? thats ridiculous.. in an econobox..?
even if it had the power to go that fast.. doesnt mean it should.. takes more than power to go fast.. if you want to do it with control..

im aware of that it isnt all about hp but that would be great base line. with plenty of room for potential. a lot of cars 4cyl run around 150hp. the xd is known to be an underpowered car.
so hows that not plausible? a celica gts can pulls that off.

corolla is a econ box too.... then they came out with the xrs.. 160hp. 6spd. red line 8k. 140 top end with the capability of going higher top end.

your turn. :roll:

Julian_xD 10-07-2011 03:31 PM

How about an optional sunroof, standard foglights or DRL's, change the tire size, should be more 215/55/16, make the trunk deeper, that's what I'd change.

CXTKRS1 10-07-2011 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by xD_kidd91 (Post 3921083)
im aware of that it isnt all about hp but that would be great base line. with plenty of room for potential. a lot of cars 4cyl run around 150hp. the xd is known to be an underpowered car.
so hows that not plausible? a celica gts can pulls that off.

corolla is a econ box too.... then they came out with the xrs.. 160hp. 6spd. red line 8k. 140 top end with the capability of going higher top end.

your turn. :roll:

Cause maybe your not thinking this through very well? To make the xD go 160mph with 160HP you would need some spaced out gears which would cause the car to suffer on the low end. Even with the gearing set up correctly it will take forever and a day for the car to reach 160 MPH. Why would you setup a car that maybe 0.01% (being serious about that number) would even consider going that fast in anyway?

xD_kidd91 10-07-2011 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by CXTKRS1 (Post 3921153)
Cause maybe your not thinking this through very well? To make the xD go 160mph with 160HP you would need some spaced out gears which would cause the car to suffer on the low end. Even with the gearing set up correctly it will take forever and a day for the car to reach 160 MPH. Why would you setup a car that maybe 0.01% (being serious about that number) would even consider going that fast in anyway?

Maybe.. your not thinking what ii just said very well.

I never said about 160hp going 160mph did I?
I'm aware of our gear ratios being spread out but the c60 trans. Executes well with very little lag and great top end.

Why would someone consider a car to go that fast? believe it or not. There's people out there that. There's cars out there today that do that standard *gasp!*
Did ii say ii want to go 160mph? No
But would ii like to know that it is capable of doing 160? Yes

All I'm saying is having those opinions ii have standard. Then there would be plently of potential and enjoyable stock.

So calm down. Smh lol

CXTKRS1 10-07-2011 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by xD_kidd91 (Post 3921170)
Maybe.. your not thinking what ii just said very well.

I never said about 160hp going 160mph did I?
I'm aware of our gear ratios being spread out but the c60 trans. Is set pretty well that the car hardly lags and has good top end.

Why would someone consider a car to go that fast? believe it or not. There's people that do. There that do. There's cars out there today that do that *gasp!*
Did ii say ii want to go 160mph? No
But would ii like to know that it is capable of doing 160? Yes
Smh lol

LOL I love you the way you would like the second cheapest car in Toyota's fleet to be capable of 160 mph. Your heart is in the right place but the xD is the wrong car to pick for such a goal.

xD_kidd91 10-07-2011 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by CXTKRS1 (Post 3921175)
LOL I love you the way you would like the second cheapest car in Toyota's fleet to be capable of 160 mph. Your heart is in the right place but the xD is the wrong car to pick for such a goal.

Well of course it costs to play. With any upgrades you and everyone is requesting in this thread. Of course the price will increase. More hp. Lsd standard. And so on..

Maybe next time be specific and mention prices being a factor.

A 2zz with a c60 xd would be ideal .

MonkeyMonsoon 10-07-2011 07:44 PM

comfier seats...these things suck on road trips
stock options such as black housing headlights, some type of different tail light, fogs, sunroof

one thing that would actually boost sales is AFTERMARKET SUPPORT. The xD is the red headed step child of the scion family. Most mods are DIY, aftermarket support is really lacking. People who want a 'tuner' car aren't going to buy the xD when mods for other cars are readily available.

just my 2 cents.

CXTKRS1 10-08-2011 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by xD_kidd91 (Post 3921181)
Maybe next time be specific and mention prices being a factor.


These so changes have to be reasonable and will keep the xD in the same price range it is currently in...so no 250HP turbo charged ideas.
:icon_headphones:

xD_kidd91 10-08-2011 04:24 PM

Haha

lostxD 10-08-2011 10:43 PM

5/6spd. ~32/40 mpg. 1cm lower, 1inch wider. seat height adjust.
that's about it.

mikem53 10-09-2011 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by xD_kidd91 (Post 3921083)
im aware of that it isnt all about hp but that would be great base line. with plenty of room for potential. a lot of cars 4cyl run around 150hp. the xd is known to be an underpowered car.
so hows that not plausible? a celica gts can pulls that off.

corolla is a econ box too.... then they came out with the xrs.. 160hp. 6spd. red line 8k. 140 top end with the capability of going higher top end.

your turn. :roll:

Maybe you think it's underpowered.. but the designers and manufacturer
don't think so.. It's not underpowered to achieve the mpg and load it was designed for.
You can polish a turd all you want... but in the end... it's still a turd..
If you want a quick car.. start with something thats up to the task.. not the xD.. The aftermarket world seems to agree with me as does Toyota..

xD_kidd91 10-09-2011 03:04 PM

I don't Think its underpowered but if they can add more power then that be better

YELOSUB 10-09-2011 04:05 PM

Offer a 2-door version (aka VW Style)
Offer a Sportier Version (aka VW GTI Version)
Projector Headlights
Digital HVAC Controls like Japan gets
Better Seats
Center Armrest Standard
MORE Interior Lighting
Sunroof Option
Flat Bottom Steering Wheel from the tC2
Re-Do the Gauge Lay-Out (I like it but it could use a make-over)
Center Exit Exhaust
Push Button Start

XaJay 10-09-2011 11:34 PM

More headroom in the back seat would be good! my xA has a lot more room in the back

xDTool 10-10-2011 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by DaReal (Post 3920739)
In reality I see it DISCONTINUED just like the xA was when the xD replaced it. Scion makes it's most money with xB's and tC's anyway. I rarely even see an xD yet alone one even hooked up.

Besides all their attention will be focused on pushing the 2nd Gen tC more as well as the iQ, and FR-S this coming year.

you do realize that they are the basically the same model? the only reason they smashed the xA's name and named it the xD was to try and remarket it since the xA was very subpar in the US market. I can guarantee you if the xA had been successful, the current xD would have xA badges. in Ya-Pan its the same model, (iST) just picked up a facelift in the 08.

I think the major problem the xD is having is that its being sold and being styled as a scion. and that they also have direct competition in its own brand in the 3 and 5 door Yaris which is the same chassis.

as far as what id like to see if i had interest in buying a new car and getting back into an xD. probably a front end facelift, theyre hideous stock, and the body lines dont flow very well until the car is moderately droped (something econobox drivers dont really do much of), and front seats that are height adjustable. at 6'3 my head was against the roof 75% of the time.

TierAngst 10-14-2011 02:44 AM

The direct injection idea is good, that would up the hp a lil as well as the mpg. Fix the crappy turning radius this thing has. Just slightly more cargo room, it takes a lot of effort to get a full size bike in the back.

kervin204 10-20-2011 04:49 PM

air intake..
1.5 or 2" drop spring or coilover(but to expensive)
upgrade 18" rims tenzo or enkei still thinking about it

seats adjustment/changing for EVO seats

TierAngst 10-25-2011 03:02 PM

I think you're missing the point of the thread. It's factory changes for a future model year, not what you personally want to modify.

CXTKRS1 10-26-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by TierAngst (Post 3929152)
I think you're missing the point of the thread. It's factory changes for a future model year, not what you personally want to modify.

Yep plus some people are talking like they want Scion to offer multi tier models of the xD which is something Scion will never do.

TierAngst 10-26-2011 05:55 PM

Multi-tier modeling would definitely be a bust. I'm actually surprised the xD isn't far more popular than the yaris. Basically the same fuel economy and price in a slightly larger better looking package. Same goes to the kia soul, the xD gets much better mpg and looks better for the same size/price. :ponder:

YELOSUB 10-27-2011 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by CXTKRS1 (Post 3929646)
Yep plus some people are talking like they want Scion to offer multi tier models of the xD which is something Scion will never do.

I'm sure this is directed at me :) I can dream right...If atleast some of them could be done I'd be happy...

Nateson 10-27-2011 05:18 AM

REAR BRAKE ROTORS!


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