that's true after having 2 1st gen xb's the quality of the build on the xd is so much more solid. of course with the variety of directions and parts with the 1st gen xb is the one thing that's different or should i say lacking i miss with the xd.

 

you're not the only one that barely gets 30MPG's. I get less in the winter here. 28 or so. 34 when it's above 50 degrees. xD has great power, little aftermarket. xA has little power and great aftermarket. it's the OP's choice. I'd op for the extra power really as he doesn't seem interested in body mods as i did.

 

If you check out Fuelly.com, you'll see that most xD owners are getting 31 MPG. Fuelly uses calculated MPGs, as you have to enter your odometer reading and the number of gallons it took to fill up... so no false readings from the dash display there.

There are a few people getting 25 MPG and a few getting 35 MPG. There's mine getting 37 MPG and then trikkonceptz getting 42 MPG. The one that is supposedly getting 45 MPG is not real... they only entered a few times and none were full tanks, so the numbers were never really calculated.

So, even my 37 MPG is pretty far above average... and that makes sense, based on the way I drive.

 

or i could calculate it in my head at the gas station. i actually don't care anymore. I drive it in VTAK anytime i can cuz it sounds awesome.

 

X2

 

If you want something with some pep why not look into a Cobalt SS? With an LNF GM tune you could easily have one of the fastest four bangers on the road while keeping the warranty.

 

BTW I only get around 28 but then again I'm an aggressive driver.

 

I also call BS on this. mcbrew is the only user I know, or remember, stating on this forum that they were able to break the 40mpg barrier. Unless you keep the logs from what you fill up at the pump and the miles on the ODO, guessing what you get won't be taken seriously.

Before my first accident I was getting 29-20mpg and that was driving it rough. After the accident I was stuck around 26-27mpg no matter how I drove it.

Also it all depends on the traffic in your area, number of street lights, etc. which will affect your mileage.

Even if you modify your engine with mods you still won't be putting out that much more of hp. Last I knew there weren't many mods out for us regarding engine mods, but on other car makes you don't really see that big of a gain period. A friend with a 350Z told me that he changed his manifold, put on a CAI and something else (pulley?) and maybe put out 10hp from all of that sunk in to the car.

That little of an hp gain is not worth the hundreds of dollars used to buy the parts.

I do miss my xD mainly for how unique it was. Seen xDs with tint on, wheels but no drop or TRD exhaust but that's about it.

My Rabbit is getting 24mpg and has a 14.5gal tank but it also is a 2.5L with 170 ponies. I like this car a lot, but I really miss my xD. Hopefully I won't regret getting the Rabbit.. *sigh*

I opted not to get another xD mainly because I wanted more horsepower, a smoother ride (a stock xD isn't that smooth) and better perks. One touch down and up windows for all windows, a sunroof, larger trunk, side defrosting mirrors, seat warmers (so nice on chilly SoCal winter mornings ;P ) and stability control. Yes, the new xD's come with VSC, but from what I've read and heard xD's don't handle that well when they loose grip compared to other cars.

 

This is not true as it depends on the engine you have. Their is no point what so ever for adding bolt ons to a 350Z. The 3.5 liter engine simply does not respond well to them and FI is the main way to gain power with these cars. These 1.8L are new engines and I doubt their are huge power gains to be had from bolt ons but some members are reporting decent gains with a CAI and axle back.

I drive my car very hard and I have never completely lost control of it even in rainy conditions. My car does not have VSC and while the option would be nice I couldn't care less either way. These are light weight FWD cars that you can pretty much toss around and unless you do something stupid or are in
extremely poor road conditions their is no reason to lose control of the car.

Note: I'm by no means attacking you just making a statement.

 

It's ok, I don't see it as an attack

There are other users on here who have posted that the xD doesn't handle the best on wet roads but don't state what the road conditions are like. All up to interpretation.

For the Z, bolt-ons for those are useless, but he wasn't referring to bolt-ons. Actually maybe he was referring to my car... I don't remember.

Either way, you're not going to get that much hp with modifying the engine for the amount of money you throw at the parts to put on the car.

 

That's ok, I don't really see the need to prove my mpg to anyone. No one has to believe me, I won't get mad

But if it lends any credibility to my claim, I was on cruise control at 65-70 mph on the 5 from SF to LA. And when I hit the downhill portion of the grapevine, I coasted in neutral. Also this was with the stock 6 inch wide steelies on 45 psi. Plus, what do in the world do I have to gain out of lying about my mpg?

And about the "lots of people getting 45 mpg"...yeah mabye I just have a bad memory But I remember the 42 mpg on my odometer (yes I know it's "inaccurate") like it was just yesterday.

 

as long as you're not aggressive in adverse weather conditions, the xD is fine. but you jack around and it gets ugly real quick! Who said power gains are unlikely with the our engine? so a decent 10/15hp for $25 isn't that good? adding an intake plenum creating 150hp isn't good? swapping a 2ZZ in isn't good?

 

Compared to an LS3 V8 no they are not.

 

As far as I know there is no mod for $25, even made from scratch, that gives the xD 10-15hp. The Fujita CAI was only a few hp, but their dyno sheet for stock and with the CAI on weren't tested in the same conditions.

 

I drive my xD up and down a pretty nasty mountain every day to work. The speed limit is 45, it has a lot of almost hairpin curves and gets shut down for 18 wheeler travel frequently in bad weather. I generally do about 70+ mph going up or down it (no places for cops to hide, and no place for them to pull you over even if there were). Rainy wet pavement or dry pavement I feel no difference in handling or anything but you bet your life if its snowing or icy I'm only doing 15 mph with the 4 ways flashing going up or down.

 

yea maybe. well, back to my vtak

 

I have to say I enjoy driving my xD on wet roads. I hate the whole ice/snow/standing water thing, but I can't imagine any car really doing any better. I've gotten stuck in the snow, but it was at least 6" and my stupid butt slowed down too much trying to get into the garage. lol

I feel confident in my xD when I drive it. I take it easy down hills, but if it's rainy out I tend to drive cautious if I don't trust myself. I really like the tires on my xD, and they're stock. My D drives better than my Corolla did in the rain. It would slip, and lose traction just trying to excel from a stop light when the roads were a little wet. It always lost traction in 2" of snow, and was hard to handle with just a little slush on the roads.

I love my xD. I am getting about 30/31mpg. It doesn't like the mountainous terrain I have to drive through between here in NJ and upstate NY. I miss getting 36mpg with my Corolla, but I'm just glad to be getting over 30mpg.

When people ask me what I think about D, I always smile and tell them proudly that I love it. I wish it was a little bigger, and I will probably be getting a larger car once I can afford it (not an xB, sorry Scion), but I can't see myself giving up my xD for a long long time!

Oh, and I tend to drive my xD like it's a sports car. lol I had a 240sx that I totalled a few years ago. I still drive like I did back then, although a little more cautious in bad weather. lol It probably isn't good for the D to drive it hard and fast sometimes, but I like to push it to see what I can get out of it.

 

The tires that come on the xD (16" ones) are fine on dry or wet pavement. There are a few corners that I take pretty fast, and have never had a butt-puckering moment with them. However, they are horrible in the snow. Absolutely horrible. I live on a driveway with three houses. I have a tractor with a plow, and it is my job to plow the driveway and make sure everybody can get out... which means I get to drive a bunch of cars up and down the driveway. The new cars are my xD, a Fit, and a Mazda 3. The Fit and the 3 go up and down the driveway with little fuss. My wife's 2000 Civic with Sumitomo tires handles the snow like a champ. There are also two Jettas... a 2004 and a 2005.5. Both of them are fine in the snow... both have OEM tires on them, although the 2004 is on its second set. There is also a Sprinter van, which has the typical Mercedes Benz fear of snow. The last vehicle is a Chevy van... and although it has positraction, it doesn't do so well in the snow unless it is full of people (or a few hundred pounds of anything).

So, what I'm saying is that it is not just my poor winter driving skills... the xD's stock tires are terrible in the snow.

 

Oh, and as far as VSC goes... you can knock it all you want, but there's a reason that it is mandatory on all cars from 2012 on. Next to seat belts, stability control saves more lives than any other auto safety feature. There are plenty of studies to back this up, so it is really not up for debate.

The fact that a lot of people haven't "needed" it yet is irrelevant. In the 18 years I have been driving, I have covered hundreds of thousands of miles... and I have only needed my seat belt ONCE. However... that one time... I REALLY needed it. Like a lot of things, you don't need VSC at all... until you do.

Once VSC becomes standard in 2012, stability control will save an estimated 10,000 lives every year in this country alone. That's how many lives it will save... the number of non-fatal accidents it will prevent is many times higher.

 

agreed mcbrew, in my new car, the 2010 xD, the VSC has saved me from spinning out (like how i wrecked my old D) a couple of times already. love hearing that fast beeping noise when car is going the way the steering wheel isn't facing. it means it's working.