Drivers extended seat rails (For the taller people)
I was wondering if any of the taller driver 6'+ have found a way to extended the seating position in the drivers seat. I find myself being uncomfertable as I cannot extend my legs far enough.
Anyone have this problem know of a fix?
-Sean
Anyone have this problem know of a fix?
-Sean
Unless Scion has some kind of extended seat base mount (possible you might check with them) you are stuck with modifying the seat mounting points with fabricated brackets of some kind. It seems that it wouldn't be terribly hard to do. 3 of 4 corners mount flat so simple brackets bolted to the original floor nuts with a nut farther back on which to bolt the seat incorporated into the bracket. On the inner rear seat leg the bolts go horizontally into the tunnel side this would present a bit more challenge, but I think that a piece of flat steel bolted to the orig seat mount bolts and extending rearward with new nut locations for the seat might work (likely have to cut a couple holes in the tunnel for the new nuts and seat bolts to recess into). An hour or 2, a welder, a drill, a grinder, a piece of of 1/8" steel plate, and a bit of ingenuity.
When I got my xB in 2004 I asked the same thing. I am 6'6 and about 350. The dealer sad there is no way they could. I talked to the shop that i deal with and they said they could.
They were going to do it the way TerribleTed explained it.
They were going to do it the way TerribleTed explained it.
Last edited by MR_LUV; Jan 27, 2018 at 07:37 PM. Reason: typo
I will have to pull the seat and take a look at it. Interesting why the seat doesnt go back a few more clicks (with all the room in the back seat). Any aftermarket sliders that might go back a bit further?
-Sean
-Sean
I have never seen anything like that universal anyway. Some aftermarket companies and some manufacturers have made such an item on and off for sepcific cars ( I can get you easily 3 more inches rearward on a chevy Corvair for instance). I fear that you only option is a one off custom bracketing setup. I have made this type modification many times (mostly to install different seats in a car, only a couple times to accomodate a tall driver). Either way different seats of moving the exisitng seat back (or forward) the process is the same. You do not really want to modify the seat itself, it is too easy to compromise its strength. You want to modify the mountings to the floor. This is ideally done without modifying the floor itself (so you can go back stock if you want some day) Basically you need to make a steel mount or mounts that mount to the car like the stock seat and allow the seat to mount to the new bracket. Overbuild it, 1/8" steel at a minimum, and depending on how it is constructed possibly 1/4 steel would be good. The Corvair design uses 1/4" steel plate that bolts to the floor and provides new mounting locations 3 inches farther back in the car for the seat, with no seat modification. This is basically what you need to make. One bracket per side taking in front and rear seat mount points, or a bracket at each of the 4 seat corners, or a combo of this. I think the way the xB is set up, the best bet might be a single bracket for the outer seat rail mountign front and rear, and seperate brackets for the front inner and rear inner mounts is likely the easiest way to fabricate them. The rear inner bracket could be just a piece of 1/4 " steel that bolts to the existing floor holes and provides new nuts (welded to the 1/4 steel) farther back for the seat to bolt to. The new front brackets for inner and outer legs will need to be a funny S shape to accomodate the angle on the seat legs(angle the new part up where the bolt to the floor goes then straight back to clear the riser in the floor then down and back up so you can weld a nut under it at the same angle as the original seat mount bolt at the same height). The front inner would be the same part. I would continue the outer bracket straight back after the new front mounting nut to pass across the rear outer original floor mount (bolt the bracket to it) and put a new nut under the new steel to mount the rear outer leg flat like stock to the bracket, Linking the front and rear of the seat on one bracket will add significant strength agaisnt any twisting forces ( it would be best to have both sides linked front to rear but the inner side (due to the odd angles of the exisiting mounts) would be hard to construct tho. I bet that only linking one side would be Ok tho. Good luck. Remember make it over strong, you certainly do not want the seat (which also holds the inside seat belt) to come loose in event of a major collision.
At 6'3", My problem with the Box ergo situation is that while the leg room is a little short, the steering wheel is a little far away, particularly w/o a usable door armrest... As TT points out, fabbing brackets to move the seat back is pretty straightforward, but moving the steering wheel along with it is another issue entirely... I think such could be accomplished using some bracketry and a longer intermediate steering shaft plus some cosmetic work to the steering column coverings... finding that steering shaft is the problem- I'm loathe to cut/ extend/ reweld the stock shaft, even though it is a welded assembly from the factory...
If the Box has any serious failing at all, it's that they didn't address the whole issue of taller American drivers very well. The car will allow for some incredibly short operators, though...
A few posters claim that putting ~1" spacers under the front seat mounts effectively increase the seat to pedal distance, giving a little bit of extra legroom, but I haven't tried it...
If the Box has any serious failing at all, it's that they didn't address the whole issue of taller American drivers very well. The car will allow for some incredibly short operators, though...
A few posters claim that putting ~1" spacers under the front seat mounts effectively increase the seat to pedal distance, giving a little bit of extra legroom, but I haven't tried it...
Last edited by MR_LUV; Jan 27, 2018 at 07:39 PM. Reason: typo
Washers. I did it and I'm glad I did. 6'2" here.
Don't get too ambitious, tho - anything taller than an inch doesn't give the bolt a straight path thru the bracket into the floor.
Don't get too ambitious, tho - anything taller than an inch doesn't give the bolt a straight path thru the bracket into the floor.
Last edited by MR_LUV; Jan 27, 2018 at 07:39 PM. Reason: typo
Unless Scion has some kind of extended seat base mount (possible you might check with them) you are stuck with modifying the seat mounting points with fabricated brackets of some kind. It seems that it wouldn't be terribly hard to do. 3 of 4 corners mount flat so simple brackets bolted to the original floor nuts with a nut farther back on which to bolt the seat incorporated into the bracket. On the inner rear seat leg the bolts go horizontally into the tunnel side this would present a bit more challenge, but I think that a piece of flat steel bolted to the orig seat mount bolts and extending rearward with new nut locations for the seat might work (likely have to cut a couple holes in the tunnel for the new nuts and seat bolts to recess into). An hour or 2, a welder, a drill, a grinder, a piece of of 1/8" steel plate, and a bit of ingenuity.
Terrible Ted has it right on the money in his post.
Took my xA on a 1000 mile round trip and did I regret my choice two hours into the trip. Should have taken the full size van.
LKQ had a xA and thought I get myself a spare seat to start screwing around.
Many different ways to tackle this, depending on welding and fabrication skills.
Thought I would share some pictures.
Scion xA seat are different from xB !
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