Ok looked for a little bit and didnt find much, I need to upgrade my front brakes, i drive semi hard and looking to autox the box (for fun) later this year or next. I see this kit on ebay which is nice but I know it's ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SCION...36326376QQrdZ1

I also saw on summit the have these
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...t=EBC-DP31459C

I know I would need to upgarde my rotor if I go with the summit set. SO tell me what you think. I also plan on up grading my brake lines to SS at the same time. Any advice would be great.

 

I recomend getting a good brake pads such as Axxis Ultimates, or Hawk HPS. Rotors such as the Rotora or Power Slot slotted rotors. And Goodridge brake lines with some good DOT 4 fluid, such as Motul RBF 600.

 

i have agency power stainless steel lines at all four corners, slotted only front discs on against the slot , and performance pads , it stops darned good.

 

Those eBay Rotors are not 4-lug i.e. the Xb is 4-lug. Wrong pic or worse the wrong rotors. Beware!

 

^ A lot of ebay sellers use stock images for their product, it's safe to say that the pictured rotors are not the ones you should receive; however, I would verify with the seller before buying.

 

do what bb384 and hotbox05 said.. dont buy the slotted rotor
and pad deals on ebay.. the pads arent worth it.. go with what
they listed above for pads, fluid, and lines.. you can buy just the
rotors on ebay.. but shop for a few days on there, every now and
then you find some nice aggressive slots for cheap..

 

thanks for the input, I have followed what everyone has said and plan on installing everyting sat or maybe friday when the brake lines get in. Thanks again

 

THREADJACK! Anyone know of a bolt on rear disk conversion yet? I haven't searched either.

 

None yet. WillWood a while back made a few sets for SEMA cars but never went into full production on them. I would upgrade the fronts first. JBT Mini big brake kit FTW!!

 

Thanks for the info!

 

good pads and good fluid is ALL the brake upgrade any Scion owner needs IMHO.

 

Im currently on my 4th set of pads in 2 years and still running OEM rotors. I track race my car at least once a month and you *DO NOT* need rotors, its VERY VERY VERY unnecessary and im my opinion its overkill.
Its more for looks than anything else. Here is my recommendation as i have told everyone on scionlife, Stainless Steel lines, aggressive pads and high temp brake fluid. I will give you the reason behind every single part and why its neccesary.

Stainless Steel Lines:
Unlike rubber lines, they dont expand under pressure, they maintain their same width even under the hardest braking, which keeps the fluid pressure constant giving you positive pedal feel. That will help the pedal from hitting the floor board after repetitive braking.
I use Agency Power brake lines, but I've also heard that Footwork and Goodridge are really good.

High Temp Brake Fluid:
Probably one of the most important things when upgrading to a race brake setup. This really helps, because OEM fluid doesn't have a high boiling point, so when your brakes get up to 300 degrees and your fluid comes to a boil your going to loose all pressure and brake pedal feel. The problem with boiling fluid is the same reason why we bleed brakes, to get rid of the air. When the fluid comes to a boil you get air bubbles in your lines which cause squishy brakes and when your coming down the straight at 90 MPH and you hit your brakes and your pedal hits the floor, your going to put a new meaning to the phrase: OH $HIT!!!!
I use Motul RBF 600, its the best on the market and its pretty much what everyone I know uses, besides Blue Racing.

Brake Pads:
This all depends on how you like your brake feel. In my opinion, the better the bite, the more in control i feel. Aggressive pads are a must because unlike OEM pads they can take heat and abuse, repetitively. OEM pads will work for the first hard lap after that they will become TOO hot and start to fade. Brake fade comes on slowly so you can predict it and when it hits you can react and modify your driving to keep yourself from hitting the wall. Brake fade is precisely as the words describe, your brake and pedal are going to start to fade away. This in turn will obligate you to drive the pedal farther in, causing more stress on the lines and the brake master cylinder, which is turns is going to cause your lines to expand and the fluid to boil. Its all a trickle effect, one thing leads you to the other. The correct combination of parts will get you where you want to be.

I have used EBC and Hawk, for racing.
Hawk HP+: Low bite, zero fade and low dust
EBC Green: Medium bite, low fade, medium dust
The ones ive just installed:
EBC Red: High bite, fade N/A, dust N/A (ill let you know after the race on saturday)

If you still have doubts just let me know i will more than happily help you.

 

I agree, they are purley for looks considering the SLIGHT difference they make from Stock rotors.

I am getting them purely for looks and dont want brake dust ALL over my wheels let me know which of your pads work best!

Thanks!

 

Pulling off the rotor backing plates can't hurt either. Just swaping the factory steelies for my Konigs made a HUGE difference in fade reduction from the increased cooling.

 

Axxis ULT = dirrrrrty wheels .. wash em often if you get them.

 

I'd spend the money upgrading to SS brake lines. You'll see alot more improvement than with just rotors.

TJ is right about Axxis ULT's they dust like crazy.

 

how much can i expect to spend for the ss lines, high temp fluid and performance pads?

 

If you expect to stop. get better tires. ditch the stockers quick. Tires will help decrease stopping distance.

 

SS lines: $120.00
Motul 600: $12.00/bottle
pads: $60-$120 (depends the company and the compound of the pad.)

 

TJ's got it.
tires and wheels are the first things you should be looking at. doesnt matter how good your brakes are if your tires are shot to heck or are not made for stopping aggressively.

that being said, pads and brake lines are probably the best investment into the brakes setup.