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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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forgot my password . i use to post under the screen name fredrick brown,anyways awhile back i heated my tein front springs. i didn"t know how to post pics now i do and here they are.i also tried megan springs and they ride the same yes the heated ones where a little too but looked dam good doe, so im putting them on my wifes xa.
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what does heating springs do?
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gnar-de-gwar
what does heating springs do?
ruins them. Dont do it.
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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dont heat your springs... EVER!! they will continue to drop and drop especially is you abuse the car. Dont be cheap and buy a set of springs.
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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hey just sharing not telling any one to do this.plus if you do it the right way they will stop.heat the 2nd to the bottom coil and it will only drop that much .ive been running them for 3-4months and the only problem i had was rubing when i turing into deep dips.besides that it still rides like my megans pretty harsh over sharp bumps and the 35series don't help either.
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how do you "heat" just one coil? Torch it?
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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i smell rice....
why would u ruin perfectly good tein springs.
just dont be cheap and buy some coilovers.
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 12:38 AM
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just aply a little hit then put the car on the ground and do it over and over till it dropst a little bit . dont rush it or it might mess up give a week or two to adjust. and for question # 2 i just got it like that nah really it was just a test and im going to use them on my xa so it not a waste.now im waiting on the 4-efte mount kit for some speed and i work for a import shop so i can get parts and motors cheap.
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is yer wheel tire combo oversized? cuz there's no wheel gap yet the car looks really high off the ground.
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Originally Posted by dAbOkZ
i smell rice....
why would u ruin perfectly good tein springs.
just dont be cheap and buy some coilovers.
Heating springs came from the old days of the hot rodders (you know the fifties?). So if you smell rice it aint comin' from this guy.

Way to have the guts to do something truly kuztom. A lot of these people talkin' trash would never dare to do anything like this. Good work and don't listen to em'.
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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Cool, Shave that hatch.
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yeh right, people back in tha days did this because they didnt have the money or technology to lower their cars. i think it started in cali. heating springs= very bumpy ride.
yeah thats really custom.
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Originally Posted by dAbOkZ
yeh right, people back in tha days did this because they didnt have the money or technology to lower their cars. i think it started in cali. heating springs= very bumpy ride.
yeah thats really custom.
Actually you are right. They did not have the money or technology to lower their cars any other way. Thus the use of heated springs, and the famous BODY DROP. A lot of people are ballin' on a budget anyways. We can't all be rich kids you know.
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Originally Posted by MikeC
Originally Posted by dAbOkZ
yeh right, people back in tha days did this because they didnt have the money or technology to lower their cars. i think it started in cali. heating springs= very bumpy ride.
yeah thats really custom.
Actually you are right. They did not have the money or technology to lower their cars any other way. Thus the use of heated springs, and the famous BODY DROP. A lot of people are ballin' on a budget anyways. We can't all be rich kids you know.
this is true, im just saying that heating the springs is not a good idea, especially with aftermarcket lowering springs.
by the way how much of a drop did the tein springs drop u in the 1st place?
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeC
Originally Posted by dAbOkZ
yeh right, people back in tha days did this because they didnt have the money or technology to lower their cars. i think it started in cali. heating springs= very bumpy ride.
yeah thats really custom.
Actually you are right. They did not have the money or technology to lower their cars any other way. Thus the use of heated springs, and the famous BODY DROP. A lot of people are ballin' on a budget anyways. We can't all be rich kids you know.
A couple of comments. First and foremost, it was never called, and still isn't called a "body drop" by hot rodders. Hot rodders would call it channeling. And technically, they are slightly different. The term channeling got its name from the channels they would put in the floor pan of the cars to set the frame rails into. Thus lowering the height of the vehicle.

Second, talk all you want about balling on a budget, the original poster heated a set of Tein springs. He already spent the money on springs. I have been into customs for longer than I could drive. And I can tell you first hand that there are better ways to "ball on a budget" as you so eloquently put it.

If you are really broke, there is still never a need to heat a set of springs. Heating a spring changes the tensile strength of the steel, and therefore the spring rate. Essentially any time you heat a spring, you have ruined it. If you HAVE to be lower, and don't have a dollar to spend, cut the springs. And don't do it with a torch, or any other heat source. A sawzall, or if you are really broke, a hacksaw will do.

Do I recommend this? No. Would I do that before I heated a set of coils? Absolutely. Bottom line? Springs are cheap compared to other modifications. Take the time, save your money, and do it right.
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I've thought about cutting off a coil on my front springs for a bit more rake... is it possible to just do half a coil?
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Originally Posted by RTon20s
Originally Posted by MikeC
Originally Posted by dAbOkZ
yeh right, people back in tha days did this because they didnt have the money or technology to lower their cars. i think it started in cali. heating springs= very bumpy ride.
yeah thats really custom.
Actually you are right. They did not have the money or technology to lower their cars any other way. Thus the use of heated springs, and the famous BODY DROP. A lot of people are ballin' on a budget anyways. We can't all be rich kids you know.
A couple of comments. First and foremost, it was never called, and still isn't called a "body drop" by hot rodders. Hot rodders would call it channeling. And technically, they are slightly different. The term channeling got its name from the channels they would put in the floor pan of the cars to set the frame rails into. Thus lowering the height of the vehicle.

Second, talk all you want about balling on a budget, the original poster heated a set of Tein springs. He already spent the money on springs. I have been into customs for longer than I could drive. And I can tell you first hand that there are better ways to "ball on a budget" as you so eloquently put it.

If you are really broke, there is still never a need to heat a set of springs. Heating a spring changes the tensile strength of the steel, and therefore the spring rate. Essentially any time you heat a spring, you have ruined it. If you HAVE to be lower, and don't have a dollar to spend, cut the springs. And don't do it with a torch, or any other heat source. A sawzall, or if you are really broke, a hacksaw will do.

Do I recommend this? No. Would I do that before I heated a set of coils? Absolutely. Bottom line? Springs are cheap compared to other modifications. Take the time, save your money, and do it right.
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Originally Posted by Boxer_Rebellion
I've thought about cutting off a coil on my front springs for a bit more rake... is it possible to just do half a coil?
yes you can cut half a coil. cutting springs is a bumpy ride but the strength of the spring is the same . .. well not exactly but you havent heated up a spring causing massive stress on it..
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Hotbox05 is right. You can cut 1/2 a coil. You just have to be really careful with springs for certain cars and trucks. Some springs have what they call a pig tail. This means the coil diameter of the spring reduces at one end. It is designed this way to seat properly in the vehicle. Typically this isn't a problem as you would just cut at the other end of the spring.

It can be a problem though if your spring has a specific "seating" arrangement at each end. If this is the case you either need to cut a full coil to get the correct seating, or you can't cut them at all. I honestly haven't looked at the xB suspension enough to know whether or not any of these conditions exist. If you aren't sure... don't do it. Save your paper route money and order a set of drop coils.
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Originally Posted by RTon20s
Originally Posted by MikeC
Originally Posted by dAbOkZ
yeh right, people back in tha days did this because they didnt have the money or technology to lower their cars. i think it started in cali. heating springs= very bumpy ride.
yeah thats really custom.
Actually you are right. They did not have the money or technology to lower their cars any other way. Thus the use of heated springs, and the famous BODY DROP. A lot of people are ballin' on a budget anyways. We can't all be rich kids you know.
A couple of comments. First and foremost, it was never called, and still isn't called a "body drop" by hot rodders. Hot rodders would call it channeling. And technically, they are slightly different. The term channeling got its name from the channels they would put in the floor pan of the cars to set the frame rails into. Thus lowering the height of the vehicle.

Second, talk all you want about balling on a budget, the original poster heated a set of Tein springs. He already spent the money on springs. I have been into customs for longer than I could drive. And I can tell you first hand that there are better ways to "ball on a budget" as you so eloquently put it.

If you are really broke, there is still never a need to heat a set of springs. Heating a spring changes the tensile strength of the steel, and therefore the spring rate. Essentially any time you heat a spring, you have ruined it. If you HAVE to be lower, and don't have a dollar to spend, cut the springs. And don't do it with a torch, or any other heat source. A sawzall, or if you are really broke, a hacksaw will do.

Do I recommend this? No. Would I do that before I heated a set of coils? Absolutely. Bottom line? Springs are cheap compared to other modifications. Take the time, save your money, and do it right.
Your kind of a condescening jerk are'nt you? I geuss you know everything though so you have a right to act like a fool. Your a real ___-et to this community, way to further the sport!



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