Great Forum!! This is my first post here, about to get my Box in 2 weeks time. I've gone thru the thread but it does not answer my questions.

We just moved here and we decided that the Xb would be a good starter car.

My question is, I'm 240 pounds, the wife is 110pounds and the daughter is 60pounds. And the occassional grocery and shopping is another 100pounds.

AFTER i install the factory option TRD Lowering springs. . . . . . . . . . .

What after market wheel and tire combo should i get? That will not rub when the box is filled and I can drive comfortably and take corners with a peace of mind that they will not rub.

I'm thinking of 16's with 45 or 50series tires. Will a 17's still fit with room to spare?What size of wheel and tire? But you guys who use the Xb as a "small" family commuter knows best!

I know that this has been asked a hundred times but I'm assuming that the guys who run 18's & 19's don't have people sitting at the back and fill up the back with stuffs.

Lastly.........

Where in LA county or San Diego, can I have the rear disc option installed? How much does it costs?

Thank You!!! Any inputs will be gratefully appreciated.

Lem



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You will not rub as long as you get the correct tire size and proper offset on the wheels.

For 16s, I'd recommend 205/50/16. That'll keep your speedometer accurate, and will not rub.

If you go with 17s, which you will also have no problem with, go with 205/45/17 or 215/40/17 and you will be fine.

Make sure the wheel's offsets are between +20 and +42 (at max). I'm running a +35 in front and a +20 in the rear (with the aid of spacers, and with a full car (e.g. four passengers and me) I still don't rub, even though I'm lowered on Tein S-Techs.

Follow these guidelines and you'll be fine.

 

Thank You so much!! I have saved your reply! I think i also see your name at RCtech, I may be wrong.

The Xb is also a good hauler for RC stuffs.

Thank You!!

Lem

 

I'm big into R/C, but I'm not on that board. I am on RCUniverse, but I don't think I've made a single post.

Glad I could help.

 

x2 on the offset.

critical, critical information on wheel fittment, IMO. My next set of wheels will be 7.5 and +20 front and +10 rear, just to get flushed up to the fenders.

 

and sorry, to answer your questions, the trd lowering springs don't make much of a visible difference. They do impact the ride quality, and for me, it's not a good trade off.

I'm currently dropped 2" on tanabes with 18s and a rear offset of +20. Passenger side rubbed slightly under load. I have two boys 9 and 11 who are usually in the back.

the rear disc option will be very costly. I would suggest that there are other good ways to spend a couple grand.

hth

 

FYI...

We just made a trip from Fresno to Monterey in my wife's xB. The car is dropped 2" on Tanabe springs, and is fitted with 18x7.5 +45 wheels sporting 215/35/18 tires and 3/8" OTG spacers in the rear. We had probably about 750 lbs. worth of people and "stuff" in the car. Including one pregnant woman.

No matter where we went we never had issues. From the bumpy freeways, to the twisties in the hills at high speed... no problems. Even on some of the tight, poorly paved streets of Monterey and Carmel... no problems.

Just food for thought.

 

Really appreciate the replies.

Now I guess I have to go with the Tanabe Springs, which one? DF210 or NF210

Next is either 16's or 17's....... will face it when the time comes.

Lem

 

My wife's car is on the DF210s. She likes them just fine, and is very pleased with the ride. Especially given the drop they provide. We are planning to swap out the rear shocks with Monroes though to help smooth it out a little bit.

If you don't want to drop the full 2"+, go with the NF210s.

 

I have the DF210s as well, and it is...how shall I say...a 'responsive' ride

I like them.

regarding the choice between 16 or 17 - I'd say 18. Just kidding.
IMO, 17 is big enough to make a person wish they had gone 18. 16 might be a better choice if you are going for function over form, especially with the cost savings. I've seen some pretty nice stances on 16s, but i think some research is good to do before the purchase, so you're well on your way.

If RTon20s ended up with a +45 offset wheel, he probably made the same hasty type of wheel choice I did. I later found out that my 45 offset wheels rub unless they are spaced. Either that or he really digs those konigs, and I can understand that too.

 

LOL... the wife wanted the Konigs. She literally could have gotten any wheels she wanted and those were her choice. O knew they would need spacers and so I ordered a set of OTG spacers at the same time. Everything got installed at once.

 

since I'm from P.I. i would go for Rota's.
SubZero http://www.jaydm.com/subzero.htm
or
SlipStream http://www.jaydm.com/slipstream.htm

both come in 16x7 with a 40' offset. will that be fin

I've been with Rota's ever since i had a car, just don't know their reputation here in the US.

Thanks so much!!

 

17's at 205/40/17 with tanabe will give you about an inch of fender gap both front and rear (im not satisfy). if your thinking about 17's on df210 then get tire size 215/45/117. 215 to beef up the tires to protect your rims and 45 for added ride comfort. i know because i have some motegi dp6 17's on 205/40/17 no protection at all and way too bumpy. don't go with 18's because they are way to big for a 1.5 liter engine with a small transmission. it'll work on your transmission over time. furthermore a four lugs with small disk brakes. think about it. but its up to you. oh yeah and one more thing about the tanabe df210, when you put weight on the rear of the car, the spring will adjust to the weight and you a higher ride in the front and a lower ride in the back......my opinion.... very ugly..... if you got money go with tein basic..... don't go with ground control coilovers heard in here that the rear springs falls off.

 

17's at 205/40/17 with tanabe will give you about an inch of fender gap both front and rear (im not satisfy). if your thinking about 17's on df210 then get tire size 215/45/117. 215 to beef up the tires to protect your rims and 45 for added ride comfort. i know because i have some motegi dp6 17's on 205/40/17 no protection at all and way too bumpy. don't go with 18's because they are way to big for a 1.5 liter engine with a small transmission. it'll work on your transmission over time. furthermore a four lugs with small disk brakes. think about it. but its up to you. oh yeah and one more thing about the tanabe df210, when you put weight on the rear of the car, the spring will adjust to the weight and you a higher ride in the front and a lower ride in the back......my opinion.... very ugly..... if you got money go with tein basic..... don't go with ground control coilovers heard in here that the rear springs falls off.

 

trd's are nowhere near low enough to rub on any correct tire size choice.

 

for 17's i'd use 205/45/17 or 215/40/17. I run 215/40/17 and love em. i rub but i'm at 3.25 inch drop.

18's working the transmission? hardly....

you must use some heavy and i mean HEAVY 18's to do all sorts of damage to trans and brakes , now 20's yes , 18's not that much.

oh and "oh yeah and one more thing about the tanabe df210, when you put weight on the rear of the car, the spring will adjust to the weight and you a higher ride in the front and a lower ride in the back......my opinion.... very ugly..... "

that is sort of true of any spring combo , hell even a lot of coilovers will do it. and the tanabe df's are the least likely to do that of any aftermarket xa/xb spring out there. the front will marginally if at all go higher but OBVIOUSLY when you add weight to the rear of the car the rear end will get lower.... any spring in the world except active control (air suspension ) will do that


dude seriously a lot of your info may sway people out of certain things with no real reason behind it......

 

wasn't trying to sway him out of anything. i just happen to have some tanabes and wanted to give him some info on them. if somebody gave me this kind of info before i bought the tanabe, i would have waited and got me the tein basics.

 

dude ANY spring of any kind on virtually any car will do what you are talking about? and yes the tein basics are good coilovers but there are way more than just one or two coilovers for the xb....


blitz wagon dampers
cusco vacanza's
tein ss
tein basics
progress
d2
k2
and i'm sure many many more good ones.

the basics don't go low enough imo

 

Attack http://www.rotawheels.com/products.php?id=4
SubZero http://www.rotawheels.com/products.php?id=47

The attack 17x7.5 has a wheel offset of 35
The Subzero 17x7 has an offset offset of 40

my question is;

what's the difference in fitment between a 35 offset and 40? which will more comeout? and less likely to rub? And what happens if the offset is 45? the max is 42 right??


Thanks

 

offset 45 will rub the inside rim of the wheel on the frame - offset +10 (7.5) looks best on the rear IMO