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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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I'm going to open this back up for a discussion, because I believe the information should be out here. The only way this post is going to >poof< is if people can't play within the rules, and that means, very explicitly, not getting personal. However, if someone feels they need to attack a superMod, send me a PM and keep it out of here.

I resent the implication that information is moved from here because of a product bias among the staff of this site, and that simply is untrue.
it is useless to have a censored debate. glad to know i spent 7 months sleeping in a dirt hole in afghanistan so that i could come home and be stripped of my freedom of speech.
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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it is useless to have a censored debate
Censored is a loaded word. He clearly stated that as long as we don't get personal we are fine.....

We can get specific without it becoming personal.

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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
it is useless to have a censored debate
Censored is a loaded word. He clearly stated that as long as we don't get personal we are fine.....

We can get specific without it becoming personal.

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ok then. heres my beef. (without getting personal)

"Know that if the things you wish to say are true, they will come to light on their own accord."


these issues have been brought to light time and time again. someone, im not gona say who cause i dont wanna get personal, keeps these issues out of the spotlight where they should be, and sweeps them under the rug.

does anyone else feel this way? or is it just me?
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brett
Originally Posted by cherryBox
I'm going to open this back up for a discussion, because I believe the information should be out here. The only way this post is going to >poof< is if people can't play within the rules, and that means, very explicitly, not getting personal. However, if someone feels they need to attack a superMod, send me a PM and keep it out of here.

I resent the implication that information is moved from here because of a product bias among the staff of this site, and that simply is untrue.
it is useless to have a censored debate. glad to know i spent 7 months sleeping in a dirt hole in afghanistan so that i could come home and be stripped of my freedom of speech.
for god's sake man, the only things that were removed were personal attacks, and you know this because you were here for the whole thing. there was nothing, and i mean NOTHING removed that was in ANY WAY pertinent to this discussion or any of he parties involved.
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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moved from: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...650&highlight=

normally, brett, this would get moved to the moderator-only areas, but I have moved this here so that you may keep it public as seems to be your wish.

I don't wish to get into a confrontation with you, but to continue this discussion in the previous thread (https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...650&highlight=) is unfair to the original poster, and is off-topic.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Having spent my time in a jungle many years earlier, please allow me a quick response to the "Free Speech" portion of Brett's complaint.

First off, from what I understand the only things disappearing are personal attacks, which every one of us agreed not to do before we were first allowed to post at ScionLife.

Secondly:

("Freedom of Speech" is not a term that applies to any private site that allows posting by members. The US First Amendment only applies to not allowing the US government to censor most speech. As soon as you step into a private site like this, you are in someone else's livingroom, not in a public space, and the owner - the person paying the bills - can set any rules they want and a poster can either agree or leave. No problem, but just trying to correct an all too common error of perception about the internet. Also note that if any site is not in the US, the rules can change drastically...)

OK, I'm done for now.


Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Thanks, tomas, I think we're done here.
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