View Full Version : 2004 or 2005 xA, how do you know?


JJsxA
12-04-2004, 01:49 AM
My new xA should arrive any day now. It may be a stupid question but I just realized that I wouldn't know it if they gave me a new 2004 instead of a 2005. Is there any way to tell the difference physically? I expect the paper work will say 2005 on it but I would like to know of all the differences in the model years. May come in handy when ordering aftermarket parts too.

hotbox05
12-04-2004, 01:52 AM
it will be an 05 all the 04's were gone awhile ago.

fugeelama
12-04-2004, 02:45 AM
Check the VIN :D

JJsxA
12-04-2004, 03:00 AM
Was just wondering if there is any visable differences, like trim, color choices, additional options, etc. Some web sites list parts for '04 but not '05. Guess, if there is no difference, can order '04 parts without fear of fit. What in the VIN indicates model year?

fugeelama
12-04-2004, 03:05 AM
Hmm, not sure, but here's a link to what to look for on the ID plate (driver's door):

http://www.anythingtoyota.com/scion/scion-vin-id-chart.asp

And no, there is absolutely no difference (aftermarked part-wise) between '04 and '05 models.

JJsxA
12-04-2004, 04:31 AM
Thanks for the link. In the years to come, used shoppers will find such info valuable when trying to determine the book value. I'm getting the 7/100 extended so I'm planning on keeping mine for awhile.

djct_watt
12-05-2004, 03:58 AM
the stereo was changed in 05, I believe, I'm not sure. It allows personalization on the "welcome" screen, where you can program it so say what you want it to. Mine yes, "Yes, Master?" I think this only affects the 6disc Stereo though. . . but I'm not sure about this.

JJsxA
12-05-2004, 04:38 AM
the stereo was changed in 05, I believe, I'm not sure. It allows personalization on the "welcome" screen, where you can program it so say what you want it to. Mine yes, "Yes, Master?" I think this only affects the 6disc Stereo though. . . but I'm not sure about this.

Guess I'll find out about the standard single cd system when I get the car. The only options I'm getting is cruise control, automatic, & extended warranty. Was gonna get the mats but ordered them from ScionPartsPeople.com which link I got from this forum. The dealer option was $120. but I got the front 4 mats for $48.75 including shipping and no tax. Came from Toyota of Puyallup fast and perfect. Now if the car they go in would get here. Several inches of snow still on the ground here and calling for more, so didn't want to pick up my new xA without mats.

mikochu
12-05-2004, 05:13 AM
2005 xAs have a mirror in the passenger side visor...

fugeelama
12-05-2004, 05:13 PM
the stereo was changed in 05, I believe, I'm not sure. It allows personalization on the "welcome" screen, where you can program it so say what you want it to. Mine yes, "Yes, Master?" I think this only affects the 6disc Stereo though. . . but I'm not sure about this.

It affects the regular stereo as well. Both the 6-disc and regular stereo allow you to customize the display, so if you can't do it it means you have an '04 stereo (which has been known to happen! The cars come sans radio, and the dealer has to put one in there, and I know a few people that got '04 radios in their '05 cars, but it's a simple trip back to the dealership to get the right one in your car).

JJsxA
12-06-2004, 12:25 AM
the stereo was changed in 05, I believe, I'm not sure. It allows personalization on the "welcome" screen, where you can program it so say what you want it to. Mine yes, "Yes, Master?" I think this only affects the 6disc Stereo though. . . but I'm not sure about this.

It affects the regular stereo as well. Both the 6-disc and regular stereo allow you to customize the display, so if you can't do it it means you have an '04 stereo (which has been known to happen! The cars come sans radio, and the dealer has to put one in there, and I know a few people that got '04 radios in their '05 cars, but it's a simple trip back to the dealership to get the right one in your car).

Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to read the owners manual on the subject and if it don't work the way it says, back to the dealer I'll go.

djct_watt
12-06-2004, 12:30 AM
it will be in a seperate manual. . . there is a completely seperate manual, just for the stereo.

Also, as Mikochu stated, check your passenger side visor, it should have a mirror. But otherwise, there is a VERY low likelihood that you will get an 04. They are well into the 05 production year. . .

JJsxA
12-06-2004, 02:37 AM
it will be in a seperate manual. . . there is a completely seperate manual, just for the stereo.

Also, as Mikochu stated, check your passenger side visor, it should have a mirror. But otherwise, there is a VERY low likelihood that you will get an 04. They are well into the 05 production year. . .

The mirrors I noticed in the test drive but didn't know the '04 didn't have a passenger side. Wish they were lighted but doesn't really matter to me either way. Probably will be cheaper to replace, as the years go by, if need be.

TheScionicMan
12-06-2004, 02:45 AM
Look in the Driver's door jam. The label there will tell the Date of Manufacture.

maybe that's what that link showed, above, I didn't look...

hotbox05
12-06-2004, 03:18 AM
that doesnt matter almost all the 05's are built in 04

JJsxA
12-06-2004, 03:23 AM
that doesnt matter almost all the 05's are built in 04

They would have to be until it is '05.

hotbox05
12-06-2004, 03:59 AM
well yeah but in 05 most of the cars will be 06's scion puts their cars out early

stellarhavoc
12-27-2004, 07:16 AM
2005 xAs have a mirror in the passenger side visor...

ding ding ding! Mikochu wins the prize! if there is one...

Ashe_WCM
12-27-2004, 08:04 AM
I need to trade my 04stereo for an 05 stereo :)
I can always have a problem with it I guess.

George
12-27-2004, 06:54 PM
I've noticed that on 2004s, the VIN stickers on the various body panels are white. On 2005s they are black. I don't know if this applies to the xAs, though.

Question: did they add a vanity mirror to the RH visors of xBs in 2005 as well?

George

staypuft
12-27-2004, 08:04 PM
I have a 05 xA, The tag on my door reads 04 tho, I have the mirror on both visors, the raido now reads out staypuft when i start my car. I also heard that mud flaps where standard on the 05 and not the 04(this iam not sure if is true or i dreamed it). The tag on the inside of my door is black .

adorable
12-28-2004, 12:59 AM
My 12/04 bought xA has black door tag, personalized wake-up Radio message, but I think the thing is almost all Scions should be 05' models now -- they either sell out of xA's faster than the other models, or they have just enough made to meet demand and sell out right away. My xA was made 11/04, so that's about as fresh (ie. 05') as you can get!

Then again, to get a true '05 (ie made in year 2005), you'd have to wait until Feb 05 anyways for the Jan 05 built cars to sea ship and arrive in the States.

Z34RedSox
01-01-2005, 02:19 AM
can I just go in the dearlership and say they gave me an 04 stereo and I have an 05 (they told me, and I have a passenger mirror) or would I have to have a problem w/ it? BTW, how DO you change they display, just in case I do have the right one and I just don't know how. And is there anything else that the 05 stereo can do that the 04 can't?

jontul
01-02-2005, 02:57 AM
I just got my '05 in December. The rear headrests are MUCH smaller than the '04s. That would be one of the changes, in addition to the visor mirror and radio changes mentioned above. (And, no, the mudguards are not standard, unless I paid for something I shouldn't have).

adorable
01-02-2005, 04:18 AM
Changing the display was some crazy process of turning the car power off, pressing the button above the mute (A labeled was it?) button and holding it while turning the ignition to ACC, releasing the button, using the volume buttons to change the display, and hurry up because it'll time out and you'll have to do this a few times just to change your message. Don't know why they made it so tought....

JJsxA
01-02-2005, 04:34 AM
I just got my '05 in December. The rear headrests are MUCH smaller than the '04s. That would be one of the changes, in addition to the visor mirror and radio changes mentioned above. (And, no, the mudguards are not standard, unless I paid for something I shouldn't have).

My '05 has mudflaps on the front but not the rear and I didn't pay any extra but I don't remember if the other '05's had them on the lot or not.

BoomBox757
01-02-2005, 04:44 AM
............. they either sell out of xA's faster than the other models......

the xA is the least sold scion :roll:

Z34RedSox
01-02-2005, 05:22 PM
yah, i didn't realize i could do that. i bet alot of people think there's a button that says "Change Personalization" at least i did...
1. you have to turn the car on (acc) while holding the, like "adorable" i forget what the button above mute is too.

2. but then, let go and hold mute while you turn the car off.

3.Then you can use the volume buttons and go up and down the letters.
4. Press the button above mute to go to the next space and hold the button above mute when you're done.

JJsxA
01-03-2005, 04:23 AM
Dealer told me that the AC on the '05's was beefed up because of previous complaints. Have not had warm enough weather to try it yet but he said if I have any problems that they have an even beefier unit that can be installed to address this. Could this be another '05 difference?